New CQB Site in Kent

just chrono with what ever the weight in the gun and measure in joules. Some say you don't need above what ever weight in cqb and that is true but I have some not particularly power full guns with fixed hops that need heavier weights to fly right. Also some with hops that are hard to set or finicky which I don't want to fiddle with non of which go over the joule limit. 

 
just chrono with what ever the weight in the gun and measure in joules. Some say you don't need above what ever weight in cqb and that is true but I have some not particularly power full guns with fixed hops that need heavier weights to fly right. Also some with hops that are hard to set or finicky which I don't want to fiddle with non of which go over the joule limit. 


Agree...Maybe a good time for a new site to embrace measuring in joules

 
just chrono with what ever the weight in the gun and measure in joules. Some say you don't need above what ever weight in cqb and that is true but I have some not particularly power full guns with fixed hops that need heavier weights to fly right. Also some with hops that are hard to set or finicky which I don't want to fiddle with non of which go over the joule limit. 


i'll add to this- instead of constantly changing the chrono settings, print out a strip of paper with the proper fps reading for each weight of ammo and tape it on, then just check that the gun is under that.

of course you'll still get the straight up liars "oh i'm running .2's mate" but cheaters gonna cheat regardless of how you do it so you might aswell force them to lie and follow up with a straight up ban if anyone gets caught in a spot check.

 
i'll add to this- instead of constantly changing the chrono settings, print out a strip of paper with the proper fps reading for each weight of ammo and tape it on, then just check that the gun is under that.

of course you'll still get the straight up liars "oh i'm running .2's mate" but cheaters gonna cheat regardless of how you do it so you might aswell force them to lie and follow up with a straight up ban if anyone gets caught in a spot check.


You can always have a very accurate weighing scale next to the chrono. Never seen it done and is probably a bit of a faff though. 

 
You can always have a very accurate weighing scale next to the chrono. Never seen it done and is probably a bit of a faff though. 


true, although you're right it is a faff, done it a few times when i wasnt sure what weight i'd left in the speedloader.

i do think a dragons den idea would be to figure out a chrono method that's independant of ammo weight, they used to use pendulums back in the day where you could work out the velocity of a bullet by shooting it and seeing how far it swung, given we care about energy and not velocity it could work, although not sure how accurate it would be.

 
Would be better just to chrono on site bbs but use 0.3 or 0.32 as they are in the middle ground of weight so joule creep is less of an issue.

true, although you're right it is a faff, done it a few times when i wasnt sure what weight i'd left in the speedloader.

i do think a dragons den idea would be to figure out a chrono method that's independant of ammo weight, they used to use pendulums back in the day where you could work out the velocity of a bullet by shooting it and seeing how far it swung, given we care about energy and not velocity it could work, although not sure how accurate it would be.
 Chrono needs to be as simple and as fast as possible.

 
Chrono needs to be as simple and as fast as possible.


Yeah, i'm thinking if set up right it would be a simple pass/fail mark on the pendulum based on site joule limit, shoot it from a fixed point and if it swings higher than that it's a fail.

No asking ammo weights or popping ammo into folks mags, just rock up and shoot with whatever you brought.

But like i say the issue is how accurate such a device would be.

 
Check out echelon Facebook page updates, appears they may now allow any type of ammo and are looking into the no mesh rule with the insurance company

 
I’m excited for this site. Booked on already in hope it’ll land when I can go

As you stated it’ll be tactical hostage rescue missions will there be riot shields game mode / allowed? 

I’m not a user but would be fun to try or make a setup with a riot shield.

I personally don’t see a problem as you can flank riot shielders, throw a grenade which counts as a kill or make a rule that riot shield cannot be bigger than a certain measurement so it helps but not over powered

 
Yeah, As Grantcollins said. Please check our Facebook page. Its very difficult now to update every area.

We're trying our hardest ;)  

I’m excited for this site. Booked on already in hope it’ll land when I can go

As you stated it’ll be tactical hostage rescue missions will there be riot shields game mode / allowed? 

I’m not a user but would be fun to try or make a setup with a riot shield.

I personally don’t see a problem as you can flank riot shielders, throw a grenade which counts as a kill or make a rule that riot shield cannot be bigger than a certain measurement so it helps but not over powered
Thanks for your booking. If you can't make the first game we'll refund you or you can move your ticket to a day you can do.. Up to you! We'll try and get the first game dates out later next week! We've got alot to do between then so fingers crossed.

 
Looks great, another CQB to test out. Ill try getting down in October if you have a game date after the opening date? @Asomodai you travelling to this one? Im assuming @Prisce is, @ImTriggerHappy and @Albiscuit??

Edot: Are smokes allowed inside?

 
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No idea how I missed this thread!! 

@Robert James you know I’m down for CQB!! 

Will read the thread properly later and check out website and travel distance etc!! 

Will try try to book on the first date available. Totally happy to tag along when you boys go too, @L3wisD might be up for this too?

 
No idea how I missed this thread!! 

@Robert James you know I’m down for CQB!! 

Will read the thread properly later and check out website and travel distance etc!! 

Will try try to book on the first date available. Totally happy to tag along when you boys go too, @L3wisD might be up for this too?
I don't think an address is on the site yet unfortunately. I haven't booked because there is no date set yet otherwise I'll try to book on if I can

 
Looks great, another CQB to test out. Ill try getting down in October if you have a game date after the opening date? @Asomodai you travelling to this one? Im assuming @Prisce is, @ImTriggerHappy and @Albiscuit??

Edot: Are smokes allowed inside?


I was asked to do the test day, but haven't got a date for it yet. Still clearing out the Asbestos from what I understand. Hopefully they will remember me when they do have a date in stone!

 
Check out their Facebook page they’ve posted an update of the possibility of another school site. Smaller but apparently might open sooner. 

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I was asked to do the test day, but haven't got a date for it yet. Still clearing out the Asbestos from what I understand. Hopefully they will remember me when they do have a date in stone!


Me and a few tradesy friends have offered our help with setting up, no one’s been in contact so don’t think it’s just you mate. 

 
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Let's hope he didn't go on holiday with Thomas Cook, we could be in for a long wait if he did ?

 
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