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[BigAl]

It is Illegal with or without a defence, that is the hole problem. We have a defence to the crime but it is still a crime. That is what gives the Government the ability to shut us down overnight without any further acts being enabled.

As for the whole importing without the number on the package, go right ahead. UKBA will simply right to you asking you if you have a valid defence to allow you to import. Even with your site membership number ( it isn't a UKARA Number or a Licence ) on the package they may still write to you before releasing the package.

 

[Mack]

With the green partys new policy, maybe time to be a little more vigillant and not draw extra attention to ourselves.

Imitation weapons
There will be a complete ban on the manufacture, sale and import of imitation weapons (replica guns and blank firers) and a ban on their public possession. There will be licenses for imitation weapons used for film/theatrical purposes, and legislation to ensure toy guns are highly distinct in appearance, probably by being made of clear/translucent plastic.

http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/cj.html

 

[n1ckh]

That f*****g sucks cause of those few t***s out there that act like morons and not abiding by common sense

So if these go through, no more buying, selling and importing RIFs and we have to run around with see through weapons

 

[Mack]

Granted there already is already a ban on manufacture import and sale and not much will change there, but nevertheless all it could take is one inceddenent to remove our defence completely.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

UK Gun law sucks...

 

[team flex]

UK Gun law sucks...

you say that, and I don't entirely disagree, but without UKARA etc I believe there would be more twats running around with airsoft guns robbing banks etc, which would easily help with the ban in the uk, or an even worse law, so In my opinion I believe that it's not that bad...

-my take

 

[jcheeseright]

you say that, and I don't entirely disagree, but without UKARA etc I believe there would be more twats running around with airsoft guns robbing banks etc, which would easily help with the ban in the uk, or an even worse law, so In my opinion I believe that it's not that bad...

-my take

your take is wrong, prior to 2006 there were no restrictions on buying RIFs at all and the amount of gun-crime with airsoft guns then was negligible. The VCRA was 100% an attempt to appear 'hard on gun crime' without actually doing anything.

 

[Chock]

Thing is, with what Natalie Bennett said on the BBC's Sunday Politics show the other week, there's about as much chance of her party getting in, as there is of me becoming the next Pope.

For those of you who missed that gem, she said that she did not want it to be illegal for UK citizens to join an organisation such as ISIS or Al Quaeda (which it presently is), so long as they weren't actively doing stuff (merely thinking it). And as if that isn't bad enough, she then equated doing that to being similar to supporting the ANC before aparthied ended in SA. So yeah Natalie, I'm sure we'd all be thrilled to live in a country where the law says it's okay to support an organisation which thinks beheading people and burning them alive in cages is acceptable behaviour. I can't wait for her next brilliant policy to emerge, she'll probably replace the military with a white flag.

You wait until there's a political debate in the upcoming elections, all it will take is for any of the other politicians to point that one out, and her vote is going to melt like a snowman in the Sahara.

 

[team flex]

your take is wrong, prior to 2006 there were no restrictions on buying RIFs at all and the amount of gun-crime with airsoft guns then was negligible. The VCRA was 100% an attempt to appear 'hard on gun crime' without actually doing anything.

but times change as well. I highly doubt that if all restrictions were dropped that gun crime would go down. It just seems that way to me. Sure UKARA isn't a very well sought out law but in my opinion it has to be better than nothing.

 

[Sitting Duck]

Jeeezzz

Is UKARA or VCRA something like the Airsofting Holy Grail, Bible, Quran or some other poxy book

Always provokes shall we say "debates" and all that but like most stuff like religion & politics

it is hardly worth a toss about going to war over - we shoot each other anyway withh bb's - no excuse needed

But yet it does sometime seem like some higher authority book of guidelines they we MUST all follow

Yet in the end much like religion & politics, we take most of it with a pinch of salt and leave the rest

Just follow the 11th commandment I reckon:

"Thou shall not be a dickhead and wave thy RIF (or IF) around in a public place"

 

[Chock]

I thought the eleventh commandment was thou shalt not get caught?

 

[BigAl]

UKARA is not a law or a License, UKARA is simply a Trade Association. The VCRB was not actually anything to do with Airsoft, it was iirc largely a public order bill which at the last minute had some badly written proposals about replica guns tagged onto it as it went through the houses to be ratified as the Violent Crimes Reduction Act 2006. UKARA did fight this as it was in there interests to still be able to continue there businesses after the act.

As for the comment about bank robbers, well they tend to favour shotguns not airsoft replica's, the main nuisance with airsoft was thugs with springers bought off market stalls for a couple of quid making a nuisance of themselves in public. Thats is why we know have the VCRA.

Right having said all that this is supposed to be a weapons build thread so shall we drop all the VCRA crap and get back on subject?

 

[team flex]

As for the comment about bank robbers, well they tend to favour shotguns not airsoft replica's, the main nuisance with airsoft was thugs with springers bought off market stalls for a couple of quid making a nuisance of themselves in public. Thats is why we know have the VCRA.

yeah, i dont know why I said that, I did mean generally being a nuisance etc. As for getting back on topic, I really do like the idea of this build and would like to see it completed, and btw your painting doesn't look bad at all, what about in person?

 

[Lt Earholes]

From where I see it, you could of handled this a lot better.

Instead of posting on here saying look what I'm building.

wait till you finish and post on the gun picture thread "look what I just got given off a friend who plays Airsoft"

you are not incriminating yourself then.

Second instead of going off on one and painting your gun purple, you should of just brought a cheap hand guard, stock and carry handle then sprayed them all bright green.

Keep these on your gun and take your none fluorescent items with you to a site, once your there change them out.

Yes your now creating a RIF, but you have a defence as you are currently Airsofting.

When the day has finished change them back for the journey home.

 

[Chock]

No need to change them for the journey there, or the journey home anyway. It isn't illegal to own a RIF, and if you're going to, or coming back from a skirmish, your defence is as good as anyone else's.

 

[Lt Earholes]

It's better to be safe then sorry.

anyone can say there on the way to an Airsoft site, anyone can print off a piece of paper they have created saying there booked into an airsoft site.

Just like people said on here it's easy to create pictures, it's best to not need a defence while on your journey.

 

[straffham]

Well that clears up the Green Party's view on airsofters then, I don't think we need worry about them being in Government anytime soon though.

Although tbh their policy isn't hugely different to the VCR Bill as originally written, aside from the ownership issue, prior to the changes allowing airsofters etc being able to avail themselves of defences as in the final Act. The Greens would have to change the law to carry their proposal out and judging by their long list of plans/laws it probably wouldn't happen quickly anyway!

Regarding importing rifs be aware that although a UKARA number might give a defence against prosecution, section 36 (7) of the VCR Act states "a realistic immitation firearm brought into Great Britain shall be liable to forfeiture under the Customs & Excise Acts".

Note there are NO defence stipulations to that clause.

Regarding earlier posts the maximum penalty if convicted under section 36 (which includes manufacturing, importing, selling rifs without valid defence) is 51 weeks imprisonment (6 months in Scotland) and/or a fine set at level 5 in the standard table (as defined in section 36(9) of the VCRA.)

 

[AK47frizzle]

From where I see it, you could of handled this a lot better.

Instead of posting on here saying look what I'm building.

wait till you finish and post on the gun picture thread "look what I just got given off a friend who plays Airsoft"

you are not incriminating yourself then.

Second instead of going off on one and painting your gun purple, you should of just brought a cheap hand guard, stock and carry handle then sprayed them all bright green.

Keep these on your gun and take your none fluorescent items with you to a site, once your there change them out.

Yes your now creating a RIF, but you have a defence as you are currently Airsofting.

When the day has finished change them back for the journey home.

I highly doubt that people will believe i got given a ~£800 gun.
This is getting out of hand now. This is just a log of my journey creating something with heart filled effort, something i can look back on. I have already said it wil be brighter. The many posts after that are utterly irrelevant.

Chill the fuk out. I don't wanna see nonsense everytime i finish an episode of anime.

 

[Lt Earholes]

I highly doubt that people will believe i got given a ~£800 gun.

It doesn't matter if people believe or don't believe, it could be your rich friend who's dad is roman abramovich.Point is you wouldn't be incriminating yourself.

 

[team flex]

I highly doubt that people will believe i got given a ~£800 gun.

This is getting out of hand now. This is just a log of my journey creating something with heart filled effort, something i can look back on. I have already said it wil be brighter. The many posts after that are utterly irrelevant.

Chill the fuk out. I don't wanna see nonsense everytime i finish an episode of anime.

yeah frizzle just keep posting it, can't wait to see the outcome, and looking forward to it