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If you've already explained 'many times' why you can manufacture an RIF without a defence then why do you need to two tone it? :ph34r:
Cuz explaining a million times to everyone over and over is a bitch. The power of purple will solve the problem.

 
The ancient art of CTRL + V has been lost to the depths of history :lol:

 
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Now this is just damn stupid, Frizzle.

Not only are you manufacturing a RIF, you're actually posting evidence of it online as well.

 
Now this is just damn stupid, Frizzle.

Not only are you manufacturing a RIF, you're actually posting evidence of it online as well.
Eh, I haven't manufactured anything yet. I haven't even built a working gun.

 
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Eh, I haven't manufactured anything yet. I've haven't even built a working gun.
Hence why I wrote 'manufacturing'. You're in the process of making one, and you will obviously finish it at some point.

 
i think we should call SO19 and have them waiting to bust you the second you finish. the few minutes between assembly and painting should be ample time to rappel through the windows. think theres a post around about using a RIF to deter intruders, might not want to do that ;)

 
something doesn't need to be working to be a RIF, all that is required is that:

38Meaning of “realistic imitation firearm”

(1)In sections 36 and 37 “realistic imitation firearm” means an imitation firearm which—
(a)has an appearance that is so realistic as to make it indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from a real firearm; and
(b)is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique.

Don't get hung up on the idea of it requiring a working gearbox to be a RIF, all it needs is to look like a gun.

 
Just out of interest Lads, why is it we advise 13 year olds to remove their two tone with fairy power spray because they've played a few games and we think its a silly law anyway " and no one will ever know", but everyone's at Frizzle's throat for jumping at the chance of playing after having to spectate for so long.

Everyone's been on at him for posting about non-airsoft stuff for a year or more, now he's finally got something to talk about.

I think he's been "initiated" enough now, lets all let bygones be bygones eh?

 
Just out of interest Lads, why is it we advise 13 year olds to remove their two tone with fairy power spray because they've played a few games and we think its a silly law anyway " and no one will ever know", but everyone's at Frizzle's throat for jumping at the chance of playing after having to spectate for so long.

Everyone's been on at him for posting about non-airsoft stuff for a year or more, now he's finally got something to talk about.

I think he's been "initiated" enough now, lets all let bygones be bygones eh?
the difference being is that those 13 year olds have played a few games, as far as I can tell frizzle hasn't skirmished at all in the last 12 months, possibly longer!

as for 'no one will ever know', he's documenting his own law breaking on a public forum which is far cry from a kid scrubbing the paint off their stock in their kitchen at home.

 
Because the people who have been playing have a defense... Frizzle doesn't.

 
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I concur.

You guys are just overreacting to and overanalysing every detail and trying to pick holes in what I say for the sake of your ego. It's just a receiver ffs. And i'm spraying it tomorrow anyway.

 
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Again, we are speculating he hasn't played or has played. Has anyone asked if he's been renting recently or anything along those lines? I'm not meaning to get into an argument here guys, I consider the lot of you friends and I enjoy being on this forum too much to jeopardize that by causing bad feelings between people. I'm just trying to play devils advocate.

 
I concur.

You guys are just overreacting to and overanalysing every detail and trying to pick holes in what I say for the sake of your ego. It's just a receiver ffs. You lot are mad. And i'm spraying it tomorrow anyway.
Uh, no.

 
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I concur.

You guys are just overreacting to and overanalysing every detail and trying to pick holes in what I say for the sake of your ego. It's just a receiver ffs. And i'm spraying it tomorrow anyway.
Nothing to do with my ego, this is to do with you not only breaking the law, but also documenting it online for all and sundry to see.

Stop being an idiot, if you're going to build this gun (and clearly you are) stop posting pictures of it until you can prove a defence against prosecution for manufacturing a RIF. IT IS a crime and you CAN go to prison for it.

 
Again, we are speculating he hasn't played or has played. Has anyone asked if he's been renting recently or anything along those lines? I'm not meaning to get into an argument here guys, I consider the lot of you friends and I enjoy being on this forum too much to jeopardize that by causing bad feelings between people. I'm just trying to play devils advocate.
He's stated a few times elsewhere that he hasn't been playing, we don't just have a go for the fun of it ;)

(ok that last bit might not be completely true).

 
Oh no, i'm going to prison for putting two halves of a receiver together which came as a set. Litterally anyone buy a black receiver as a part.

I haven't even built anything yet and you're going on about rif nonsense. You're also missing the fact that it's going to be purple tomorrow.

There is nothing wrong with what i've logged so far. Calm yo steak slices.

 
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If it isn't complete he hasn't manufactured a RIF end of. If you assemble it before you paint it you will of, so make sure you paint it before you put all the pieces together. One last thing I think just the stock and upper would be less than 51%, better paint upper and lower as well as stock.

 
Oh no, i'm going to prison for putting two halves of a receiver together which came as a set. Litterally anyone buy a black receiver as a part.

I haven't even built anything yet and you're going on about rif nonsense. You're also missing the fact that it's going to be purple tomorrow.
No, you'd go to prison for manufacturing an RIF with no defence.

Haven't even built anything? You just said that you've put two halves of a receiver together in your first paragraph. :huh:

It's going to be purple tomorrow (thankfully) because we pointed out that what you were doing is illegal.

Be careful.

 
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Strictly speaking, it doesn't actually matter if you haven't been to an airsoft skirmish yet, providing you manufacture a RIF with the intention of using it for airsoft in the near future, since the actual defence on that score says that you must prove that doing so was with the express intention of making it available for the purpose of that specific activity you are supposedly doing (or intend to do) and then claiming as a defence. If you think about one of the other recognised defences available, i.e. making a film or theatre prop, knocking up an orange plastic cap gun to look realistic by spraying it black, for use in your local am-dram production of Murder on the Orient Express or whatever, is manufacturing a RIF, and strictly speaking, it wouldn't actually be a prop until it either got delivered to the theatre, used in the rehearsal, or used the opening night of the play. We could equate that to making an airsoft RIF for use in skirmishes which has not been skirmished yet. However, I would tend to think that this line of thinking is doing a bit of a merry dance through the paragraphs of the VCR Act, and unless I had Atticus Finch (ooh, topical reference, ten points to me!) defending me, then I wouldn't wanna rely on that kind of nitpicking to keep me out of jail.

In practice, I would want something bit more ironcast myself if we were talking about the possibility of doing bird, so in my case I have a UKARA, I also work for a film production company where I use them as props for CGI, and I go to skirmishes regularly as well, so that's three bites at the cherry defence-wise, and all of them already in practice right now, which would I hope prevent a prosecution, but the aforementioned 'making it available for' is nevertheless what it says in the VCR Act. So whilst I think you'd be okay in regards to being pulled up by the CPS, personally, I would not be posting pics of knocking up a RIF on a forum for all to see if I was not fairly sure that a defence would be easy to prove if I were you, because me 'thinking you'll be okay', is no guarantee that you will be.

If you want the only jail you ever go to, to be the airsoft site at the former Ashwell Prison in Rutland, then I'd be a bit careful about what pictures you post.

 
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