The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

[Rogerborg]

i preferr my fantasy world where people are honest.

There are two things that we could assume.

1) That everybody is honest and knows what they're doing, in which case a site chrono is just a tool for players to self-check.

2) That at least one person will have maliciously or accidentally cheated the chrono, and if they aren't strutting around cackling "Ha ha, the perfect crime!", the only way to catch them is to test everyone in game.

In the first case, mandating pre-game chrono isn't necessary, and in the second, it's not sufficient.

I do like the idea of actually measuring energy, but it's a tricky one.  We don't have a lot of energy to play with, so we'd need a very light mechanism, and/or a very sensitive measurement of deflection, which would be skewed by the slightest sticking and would need to be regularly calibrated and maintained - which, let's be honest, isn't going to happen at an airsoft site.  The elasticity of the collision against a hard surface (as opposed to meat-parts) would also be a consideration.

Non-moving solid-state solutions don't seem great either.  This vendor is honest enough to admit that their force sensitive resistors are yes/no rather than accurate.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

What about a contained unit, kind of like the type of thing gunsmiths use to check a gun is functioning without taking it to a range. It's a box with a small hole with rubber shields blocking it. You stick the muzzle of the gun through the rubber, fire of a couple of shots and the box and rubber catch any ricochets. 

yeah that general idea.

I do like the idea of actually measuring energy, but it's a tricky one.  We don't have a lot of energy to play with, so we'd need a very light mechanism, and/or a very sensitive measurement of deflection, which would be skewed by the slightest sticking and would need to be regularly calibrated and maintained - which, let's be honest, isn't going to happen at an airsoft site.

that's the tricky part of the design, although it is possible to get that level of sensitivity, for example scales work pretty much the same way just slower. it wouldn't necessarily need to be massively accurate, just enough to tell if my ".2's honest guvnor" is actually firing .4's, and there's nothing says you cant back it up with a regular chrono mechanism to determine the velocity.

The elasticity of the collision against a hard surface (as opposed to meat-parts) would also be a consideration.

it would need to be a bb trap, if the bb gets caught then you know all its energy has been transferred.

 

[Rogerborg]

Really good today, due to some well thought out fallback variant games that kept things moving.  If I never play another game with infinite respawns for both sides again (regardless of what gimmick you try and layer on top of that), I'll be happy.

 

[Skara]

I didn't feel like being useful today so I took the vsr, mk23 and aap smg/dmr out for a spin.

Well, it turned out to be a good combination: 

The vsr didn't get used much due to the bushy nature of our field, I did get two long-ish kills with it (on the same person, right off the helmet because it's all I could see and a very satisfying "twack"), the third person I shot with it decided to tank both bbs (to the face, btw, from 40ish metres) and shrug them off despite bleeding a tiny bit from one of the impacts.

The mk23 and AAP, though, got used way more. Sure I could have carried the pistol AAP for convenience, but the added stability provided by the stock and foregrip really helped a lot! Swapped the short dot with my T1 at the last minute before the first game, but in hindsight I should have kept the optic on there as I think it makes much more sense on a gun that is so accurate it would make the vsr redundant if it wasn't that quiet.

As always, there were a few negatives: apart from the guy who didn't call his hits (he's the one who lost the national finals for us, btw, I'm used to him doing this kind of shit and the solution is generally a good burst to the face, couldn't do that today unfortunately), there have been a couple of arguments between the younger members, mostly about whose cock was the longest as it often happens between teenagers, you know, cooks and hens and farmer Joe.

The main gripe of today, though, was kit (mhm, never had an issue with kit, ever, I swear):

I had already tried doing this a while ago, but damn, trying to carry three guns at once sucks. Especially when one of these guns is hanging off a makeshift one point sling and keeps bouncing off and getting caught in stuff. Back to the drawing board on that one.

 

[rj1986]

DMR decided to shit itself and eat the BTC Spectre (i suspect) so that's an expensive repair. And once again snipers being liberal with the 30m med.

But on the plus side, I manage to come home with all my kit so that's a bonus.

 

[Rogerborg]

Mmm, I never used to be bothered about MEDs until I started running a BASR and DMR (not at the same time, pedants).  Now all I see is players disregarding MED and ROF, and it never being picked up on by marshals, even when you point it out.  It's a very slippery slope - once you see someone else taking the piss with them, there's always a temptation to get a few metres closer, or twitch your finger a bit quicker.

 

[SheriffHD]

Well, it was an eventful day. Typical high ROF dude that was pissing people off never letting his finger off the trigger and hosing people down at close range. Kids playing with what seemed like no direct supervision which lead to a few safety issues (leaving mags in guns in safe zone then when reminded to take it out do so and FIRE towards the benches where people were sat) Some douche canoe setting off multibangs in the safe zone too.

Lots of complaining too, my partner was sat in the safe zone all day (she had prep to do for an interview and liked not having a her pc or tv to distract her) and she just loved hearing all the guys coming back from the field moaning about their guns and other players.

For me though, it rained i got hurt, I got shot I got to use my new rifle (although lost the included tools that came with it because FUCK YOU ARES) and enjoyed my day and got absolutely soaked. 10/10 would do again

 

[Randymanpipe]

Myself and 4 of my oppos attended a frozen conflicts (non profit organisers) invite only event at gunman tuddenham about a month ago. 
 

We were part of the invited opfor ~

A 12 man nato special operations force against a 30+ dedicated Russian element. 
real cap ammo limits, very credible missions/taskings great mix of milsim/action. 
 

It was one of the best events Iv attended to date, with great props/taskings huge effort put in by the organisers and some attendees. 
 

They have another event organised for mid-late October this year which we’ve all paid our deposit for already! 
 

Can’t wait for the next one at mid wales airsoft.

 

[Impulse]

Had a great day today, running a very light VSR loadout and no ghillie. Had some issues with the HPA system leaking, but the tank lasted until just before lunch where I took it apart and fixed the issue, then switched to co2 for the afternoon. The line came loose where it screws into the bolt, so I just had to tighten that up. Got so many people with the VSR just holding areas and when I started playing aggressively with the mk23 I got loads of people with that by flanking as there were less numbers due to people wimping out due to rain (which all cleared up before the games started anyway).

Also had a lot of success from a stealth perspective, even without the ghillie. Just observing the seven S's of concealment saw a lot of success, as I had people look directly at me multiple times and not know where I was. Scrim net over the head and shoulders, rifle wrapped and staying nice and still made me basically invisible. Paired with both the VSR and mk23 being stupidly silent and I went undetected for most of the day, just posting up and covering a location, then moving if things got too dicey.

 

[Skara]

Didn't play today, there weren't enough people and the weather is now way too warm to even breathe.

Took the opportunity to check my M4s for next week's tournament and finish my AK, which needed the new Perun v3 installed and the gears short stroked.

Installing the mosfet is relatively easy, some soldering is required (negative battery, positive motor and signal to positive) because it's impossible to have a universal harness for V3s. Two teeth removed from the sector as well.

Programming the unit is a bit of a cunt tbf, the new hybrid has a very convenient LED system that tells you which setting you're fucking with.....too bad that my gearbox is sealed shut lol.

Turned out well, can't wait to use it

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

My airsoft day yesterday was a selling rifs day.

after asking myself some questions about kit , rifs and what I enjoy I now have reduced my  gear to what I use regularly and am willing to carry.

no more filling the car with 4 rifs all with different mags gear just in case.

with three spare at him that didn’t make the cut because it’s too rainy/depends which side of bed I got out of/which way the wind is blowing/didn’t match my camo(what a tart!!!)

 

[Mr. No_Face]

Airsoft day on Saturday consisted of me trying out my MP7 Gen 2 with only one mag and coming to the realisation that my M9 Tactical had run it's course. Played an aggressive, "Unga Bunga" style which lead me into multiple tight spots forcing me to engage with my pistol; to which I fumbled pulling from my holster due to the oversized pistol grip and my gloves didn't help much either. Gun stopped locking back on empty so I was firing blanks without realising, consequentially I'm done with this M9.  

Besides that, the MP7 gen 2 performed nicely, had one incident where the gun locked up which terrified me. Thought for a second I'd fallen victim to the umarex/VFC curse and had flushed 400 down the toilet. Luckily switching to full auto and back addressed that issue and it never happened again. The aeg fires like a laser, super light and quiet I'd say £400 well spent.....so far......I could still end up regretting it in the long run. One item I most certainly do not regret splurging £400 on is my Ronin TK45c aka (Ronin Keaton). He has never let me down thus far.

Finally, Weather is getting a bit too hot for a plate carrier so I'll be investing in a lightweight harness of some sort and a pair of light, under armour Tactical Duty gloves.

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Today started badly.  The (forward wired) battery wire in my main M4 had been pushed back into the body of the rif under the gearbox and stopped the mag from locating when I tried to chrono.  Since I was in a rush, I went to grab my spare M4, only to find the motor spinning away in the grip and not engaging at all.  A bit of thinking sorted the wire out in rif number one, as looking at gnu two, I could see where it is supposed to run.  Extremely simple two second fix but being late and flustered did not help.

The rest of the day went fine.  Good gameplay and lots of sneaking through the undergrowth bumping the other team and seeing who was fastest on the trigger, usually them tbh, as I misidentified a couple of people as friendlies!  A team mate actually stand on me, much to his surprise, as I was sneaking up on a group of players, so at least my camo and fieldcraft must have been on point.

No complicated storylines as ‘rona limits the group carrying etc, but I thoroughly enjoyed the gameplay despite some people moaning about non-hit taking.   Marshals coped with the situation really well and had the correct words with a couple of lads.  Lots of running, leaping and shouting followed.

Several girls played today, which is nice to see.  Cold sausages and salad for lunch since I am following the AFUK low carb diet… drank six litres of water in field.  Seriously, I wonder how anyone gets by with a ’56 pattern bottle and bugger all else hydration wise. 

The site tech shimmed the motor on gnu two for nix as he is a diamond of a chap. 

I kind of wish that I’d made the effort to take a themed loadout, since a few people had done so, but my standard skirmish rig is pretty tried and tested and has evolved through the years. 

Went home drenched in sweat with two working guns, a big grin and a strong desire for a G&T.  Good day out.

 

[Rogerborg]

Seriously, I wonder how anyone gets by with a ’56 pattern bottle and bugger all else hydration wise.

Monster Energy from the site shop, then malingering after lunch, and going home at 2pm with a thumping headache, is I believe SOP.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Seriously, I wonder how anyone gets by with a ’56 pattern bottle and bugger all else hydration wise. 

i tend to have just the one bottle in the field, then drink plenty inbetween games from a stash in the car.

although the sites i play are generally the kind where you can go back to the car between games.

 

[Jacob Wright]

Had an alright day skirmishing yesterday. Kind of wish that I’d known Tuddenham wasn’t all close quarters as my short G3 was next to useless at the initial woodland ranges. 
 

Unfortunately experienced a fair bit of poor hit taking from the opposition at one point, swiftly sorted by the head marshal which was good. 

Not sure it’s a site I’ll venture back to but definitely won’t be the last Gunman event I attend. 

 

[Skara]

Yesterday we played the 1st tournament after covid and I have mixed feelings about it.

Some objectives could have been fun if it wasn't for some defenders who thought it was clever to not call hits despite being drowned in plastic. But what can you do? If the ref doesn't see, the ref can't do anything about it.

Out of 5 objectives, we got the 1st one with about 50% of the points, 2nd was an utter failure (due to the aforementioned player), 3rd was a nice 100% clear, 4th went to shit and 5th we got away with 90% of the points (could have been 100% too but I messed up a small thing at the end).

We ended up being 4th out of 13 teams, not too shabby considering that (literally) half our team was at their first tournament.

The field was crap, really open terrain with little cover for the most part, zero shade, high temperatures and humidity, it was genuinely hard to breathe.

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

i tend to have just the one bottle in the field, then drink plenty inbetween games from a stash in the car.

although the sites i play are generally the kind where you can go back to the car between games.

Yep, a couple of 2L bottles of water in the hard respawn, and the one bottle on you is fine. 

The way I played Sunday, I got plenty of trips back to the hard respawn...

 

[Skara]

Today was fun, only 8 people + one observer, played escort the VIP mostly.

My AK decided it was not willing to work so it decided to die on the third game (it has something to do with the mosfet and motor, will mail Perun later), and because I brought the smersh I didn't bring any backup (no, not even a pistol) but nonetheless I had plenty of fun

Last Sunday game for this summer, we are switching to Friday nights until the temperatures come down a bit, this morning it was rocking 30°+ which is well over my threshold for heat.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

this morning it was rocking 30°+ which is well over my threshold for heat.

how hot did it get in the afternoon?

we managed 26° yesterday which was blistering by our standards