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Is JustBBGuns ruining Airsoft?

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Sorry, what do you think is more likely to be used in an armed robbery, an air rifle or a replica pistol?

I already explained to you why twotone makes sense, but you clearly do not listen.

you quoting "soldiers in the woods", do you realise thats from your post?

RIFs are only considered a "threat" because people will think they are real weapons.

lethal --> should be illegal... you serious? Well I suppose we should go ahead and ban rifles, shotguns, air rifle, plant poison, knives, cars, hammers and old age as well then?

so? guns attract kids. When I was a kid I used to openly carry a fixed blade knife at all times, but is not Sweden in the 90s... sadly. Kids can not run around with something that looks like a gun.

I live in Brixton, someone got shot a few meters from my front door a few months ago. I do not see how this justifies making it easier for criminals to get he hand on replicas?

and NO! it's not easier to get hold of an illegal firearm than a RIF, are you mad?

..and once more you show that you do not know what UKARA is.

I just explained it to you and you sounds like a broken CD player. I'm off to bed.

:D
It is much easier for someone dodgy to get a real gun than a airsoft rif. They would just contact a like minded person, rather than play soldiers in the woods 3 times in 2 months. Real guns are not difficult to obtain illegally, especially in Brixton before it went "posh".
I do know what ukara is I JUST THINK IT'S POINTLESS WHEN YOU CAN BUY A RIF AIR PISTOL WITHOUT ANY EQUIVALENT.

I personally think a rif air pistol would be the most likely gun used in a robbery, a real gun would be in 2nd place.

It's also arrogant to think that dressing up and playing soldiers in the woods gives you more right to own a rif than someone who wants to "plink" in their garden, or just like guns. It shouldn't.

You are clearly not the brightest. I think most people wouldn't group a crossbow with the random shit you did. If you think it makes sense that anyone over 17 can legally purchase a crossbow but not a toy gun, you are clearly stupid. As your comment about carrying a fixed blade in Sweden in the early 90's also illustrates!?! WTF is that about? I don't imagine the streets of Sweden to be very mean. :D

 
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& Locked* this thread has done exactly what Sam said

i have thing's i want to point out to Tac but this is Just a Shit Slinging match now neither Party will be able to convince the other without slagging off the other and I'm the only one that get's to do that you Fuppering Fup's you! :P :lol:

*if only i could

 
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I think the real value and purpose of UKARA is to show that the airsoft community as a whole is being responsible and self regulating in regards to RIF/IF.

And if I'm not mistaken the point about the crossbow is that it can be lethal as well as those other items, the fact is you wouldn't get very far walking around the high street carrying said crossbow without being stopped by the police.

All the airsoft community wants to do is provide evidence of the majority of us being responsible as a group. We cannot do anything about individual oxygen thieves!

 
Politicians have decided that the sale of guns and RIFs needs to be controlled.

The gun lobby is very strong and quite rightly you need a licence to own a gun and have to keep it in a locked cabinet at home. I have never tried to get a firearms licence but would hope that I would have to show some evidence of belonging to a shooting club for target shooting guns - bit harder to prove that you need a shotgun maybe!

The air gun lobby is also very strong and they justify the ownership of airguns as needed for pest control. Rules are easier than for real guns as they are less dangerous although can still do some serious damage. So, the restrictions are that you have to be over 18 to buy/own an airgun and have to buy it in a face-to-face transaction with proof of identity etc.

Airsoft guns are purely for fun/sport and whilst bbs fired at someones face/eyes would do some damage they are nowhere near as dangerous as airguns or real guns.

The face that they are purely for fun means it is harder to justify the need for airsoft RIFs apart from airsofters wanting to look as realistic in our simulated war games as possible. The defence and UKARA rules help to show that airsofting is a genuine sporting activity and that club members are committed enough to be allowed to own RIFs.

The fact that you can buy an airsoft pistol like the Desert Eagle from an airgun dealer without a defence - just have to comply with the airgun regulations - does make the law look flawed at best.

However, the defence is easy enough for anyone over 18 to get and if that means we can keep RIFs available to skirmishers then why knock it?

 
I can see that i'm going to have to start my own forum. How does PS-UK sound? PervSoft-UK?

 
Can't say that some of the stuff they sell looks like they'd be worth the money, but stuff like this is what put me of their site bbguns4less (it's the same site right?)

THE GUN IS BRILLIANT 300FPS HURTS LIKE A BITCH AS I GOT SHOT IS
THE BALLS AND HAND VERY ACCURATE THE MAG GETS ANNOYING AFTER I WHILE BUT
OVERALL GOOD GUN
CARBINE USED TO BE CRAP NOW BEST GUN EVER !!!!!!! Posted by Unknown on 8th Dec 2012
THIS gun is amazing i bought it and i was like waste of mony when i saw it changed my mide awsome gun like you R IN CALL OF DUTY
i shot my dog with this and he started bleeding then he wouldnt
stop bleeding and then he started crying so i shot him with my air rifle
and he died. so now he is under my stairs and my starting to smell him
as fly have layed eggs in him. so yeah over all good gun hope i helped
you
So, where were we?

 
Can't say that some of the stuff they sell looks like they'd be worth the money, but stuff like this is what put me of their site bbguns4less (it's the same site right?)

So, where were we?
f**ked if that last one is any indication to the kind of people they are selling to even if it is a joke!

 
DigiShark

This is one of my fav guns! although i use 0.12G ammo for it its still powerfull and fun just to play with. ive not used this in a game as of yet but ive felt its power ripping though redbull cans and feeling the pellets fly past me! i also love the site that has a good zoom. Grate gun, amazing for the price! would deff recomend!

Taken off of the comments section for the "M57P SNIPER SET" (Double Eagle L96). He bought a £180 rifle to shoot in his back garden with .12g BBs? Slight gust of wind and those "powerfull" BBs will be flying all over the place.

 
Good lard! I know they are piss takers, but really, £180 for a DE ANYTHING is having the tackle, the tube, the bladder & fcuking kidneys as well! We've got to get the main thread on here to be the top search result on google when anyone searches just bb guns - it's a flaming public duty!

 
Oh wow, reading the comments on those websites is hilarious and really depressing at the same time.

Though I do think people are a little too strict on guns and IFs in this country a UKARA defence is easy enough to obtain if you're 18+

That said, I'm 15, but my dad has the UKARA and he has ownership over the guns and everything (He lends them to me although I sometimes say they're mine, what I mean to say is they're the guns I use)

So yeah as long as you are responsible and know the rules everything's ok, the problem is that all these kids get their hands of them, two-toned or not, and they decide to shoot people (in their face or nuts), break stuff and kill things / don't wear eye protection etc.

Just went onto the website and found a couple more examples :(

"WHAT A GREAT GUN!!! IT'S MASSIVE AND QUITE POWERFUL, WEL WORTH THE MONEY" (on the M23 BB Gun)

"will this gun take 0.12g bullets" (Unfortunately so many of these kind of comments)

"does this gun come with the mag"

"Just got the gun best pistol ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

"OMG i got this gun for my b-day and it is amazing, i aIMED for a birdhouse hole"

"Dos it come with gas"

"Can it take plastic shots"

"this is the best website in the world"

"What do they mean by gas"

"can you put red dots on it please get back to me p.s iv been on your website sins it started please keep going your the best :D"

I could go on...

 
It is such an experience to read the comments section on jbbg, but instead of laughing I usually facepalm.

 
Would it be asking too much to have a thread for some of the comments gold from bbguns4less and justbbguns? Please?

Any1 who has put 230 to 250 fps it's actually 380 fps cos I have 1 an i know it is
the fps :( a p698 has better impact. it feels like a leaf dropped
on your leg, not worth the money :( terrible mag, 2 rounds dont fire
unless the gun is upside down. oh yeah IT JAMS ON PRO BULLDOGS
M35L UZI IS SOME BAD MAN GUN U GET ME WHY U WAN BLOODY M35L UZI IT IS A GOOD GUN PEEPS DONT MISS OUT ON THIS FFAABB GUN
Is this bb gun single snot or automatic (Asked by Dom)
im a proffesional bb gun gamer and i would say its a brilliant first time gun (HA2110 SA80)
It would also be safe (or unsafe) to assume no-one reads the product description or can see that the guns can be separated by category?

Had to add this!

this gun is a fine example of machinical and enginerial brilliants
on bb gun cooparated. the cock is vey lose and is hard to load. so the
cock is the only downfall. they rectified the accuaracy. over all its a
good gun despite the lose cock
 
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me and my mate gonna have a bb battle i bet u i win.IM A BRO! LOL
can you use normall plastic bullets or do u have to use mettle
I have had this gun when you where allowed black guns it broke but the new design looks flawless. This is mostly meatle but this gun is made by hfc a good company so for the price i think it is good for a first meatle pistol.
This has to be the best piece of replca firearms engineering ever!
 
Oh My Fupping God 'good gun apart from the lose cock' That is the best part hands down!

 
justBBguns BBguns4less lose cock

that is what needs to come up 1st on google

 
It wont be too hard to overtake or at least rank highly for those search terms if you guys actually wanted to. It'd cost a little money but id be happy to accept the challenge!

 
Don't Tempt me... :lol: For curiosity's sake what would we have to do to get it relatively close to the First Search find?

 
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