-
Hi Guest. Welcome to the new forums. All of your posts and personal messages have been migrated. Attachments (i.e. images) and The (Old) Classifieds have been wiped.
The old forums will be available for a couple of weeks should you wish to grab old images or classifieds listings content. Go Here
If you have any issues please post about them in the Forum Feedback thread: Go Here
World of Tanks
- Thread starter Hubert
- Start date
Finius
Retired Moderator
- Jan 24, 2011
- 1,430
- 361
Constantly playing games and having people ask me why I'm not shooting the enemy they've spotted when they've rolled right up to the enemy tank for a point blank show down.
As a result have started ripping apart my own team mates as well as the enemy.
As a result have started ripping apart my own team mates as well as the enemy.
- Thread starter
- #44
Warning - long, nostalgia and rage fuelled wall of text ahead:
It wasn't always that way for Arty.
Once upon a time, SPGs were actually cared for, supported, and valued as members of the team. It was a magical time. People would go out of their way to scout for SPGs - but also protect them, knowing that they were useful - but - and this is very important - that SPGs could not win a game. They could help - but the skill/stupidity of a team's arty would not automatically lead to victory. SPGs would - usually - support teams with high damage output, rather than sniping a kill which was on 4%.(This last one infuriates me, especially if there are other targets visible)
Sadly, that time is long gone. The player-base became massive, SPGs were unintentionally buffed in a few patches, and more people started playing them. With more people playing as arty, you started to see idiots with increasing regularity, instead of the "old guard" of arty players, who actually knew what they were doing. Rather than 1-2 SPGs per team, we started seeing frankly insane 7-8 SPGs a side (now this has been limited to 5). Combined with their bigger and more powerful guns, SPGs became the scum of the earth. Even in games with a sane 2-3 SPGs on each team, higher tier SPGs could - and often did - win games. In fact they still do. In games of tier 8+, which have more than 2 SPGs each, it's usually the skill of the arty which decides the outcome.
Add in the fact that SPGs rarely go for sensible/strategically-wise targets, and it leads to more players thinking that arty are the scum of the earth, and deciding to let them rot (and laughing when the SPGs get hunted down). By this, I mean the "kill stealing". SPGs are about damage output, not kills. So it is incredibly infuriating to see the heavy tank you and 2 others have slowly been killing, get sniped at the last minute by some bastard on the other side of the map (who hadn't shot at him once) - when he really should have been shooting for something more important - like the enemy's SPGs, or TDs...
This ignores the inevitable friendly-fire. Usually occurs when the player tries to pull off a mind-numbingly stupid shot. Here's a tip (relevant not just to WoT) - you have 2 targets - one is danger close for an ally, the other is not. If there's a strong chance of you hitting (and killing -_- ) your buddy, it's probably best to go for the other target... Especially if the weapon you're using is a howitzer, which has a very large amount of splash-damage.
TL;DR - why don't most people look after or support their arty? 2 reasons - 1)morons, morons everywhere. 2)Due to point 1, people just stopped caring about arty, due to the likelihood that your SPG players were going to be as much use as a paper umbrella in a monsoon.
It wasn't always that way for Arty.
Once upon a time, SPGs were actually cared for, supported, and valued as members of the team. It was a magical time. People would go out of their way to scout for SPGs - but also protect them, knowing that they were useful - but - and this is very important - that SPGs could not win a game. They could help - but the skill/stupidity of a team's arty would not automatically lead to victory. SPGs would - usually - support teams with high damage output, rather than sniping a kill which was on 4%.(This last one infuriates me, especially if there are other targets visible)
Sadly, that time is long gone. The player-base became massive, SPGs were unintentionally buffed in a few patches, and more people started playing them. With more people playing as arty, you started to see idiots with increasing regularity, instead of the "old guard" of arty players, who actually knew what they were doing. Rather than 1-2 SPGs per team, we started seeing frankly insane 7-8 SPGs a side (now this has been limited to 5). Combined with their bigger and more powerful guns, SPGs became the scum of the earth. Even in games with a sane 2-3 SPGs on each team, higher tier SPGs could - and often did - win games. In fact they still do. In games of tier 8+, which have more than 2 SPGs each, it's usually the skill of the arty which decides the outcome.
Add in the fact that SPGs rarely go for sensible/strategically-wise targets, and it leads to more players thinking that arty are the scum of the earth, and deciding to let them rot (and laughing when the SPGs get hunted down). By this, I mean the "kill stealing". SPGs are about damage output, not kills. So it is incredibly infuriating to see the heavy tank you and 2 others have slowly been killing, get sniped at the last minute by some bastard on the other side of the map (who hadn't shot at him once) - when he really should have been shooting for something more important - like the enemy's SPGs, or TDs...
This ignores the inevitable friendly-fire. Usually occurs when the player tries to pull off a mind-numbingly stupid shot. Here's a tip (relevant not just to WoT) - you have 2 targets - one is danger close for an ally, the other is not. If there's a strong chance of you hitting (and killing -_- ) your buddy, it's probably best to go for the other target... Especially if the weapon you're using is a howitzer, which has a very large amount of splash-damage.
TL;DR - why don't most people look after or support their arty? 2 reasons - 1)morons, morons everywhere. 2)Due to point 1, people just stopped caring about arty, due to the likelihood that your SPG players were going to be as much use as a paper umbrella in a monsoon.
Zak Da Mack
Members
- Nov 30, 2012
- 926
- 406
world of tanks is coming to the xbox !!!! 
Zak Da Mack
Members
- Nov 30, 2012
- 926
- 406
SheriffHD
Members
- May 27, 2011
- 814
- 100
Really? now they only allow F2P games on xbox. I guess they got enevyous of the PS3 with their F2P game model.
although Im guessing being xbox, dont expect often patching nor a massive amount of support. Its why CCP didnt release Dust 514 on xbox too, because microsoft wouldnt allow the regular patching that would of been required for the game to operate on their servers.
although Im guessing being xbox, dont expect often patching nor a massive amount of support. Its why CCP didnt release Dust 514 on xbox too, because microsoft wouldnt allow the regular patching that would of been required for the game to operate on their servers.
Airsoft-Ed
Retired Moderator
- Nov 7, 2010
- 4,164
- 941
Has anyone heard of The Mighty Jingles?
'Cos I just found him as he did a video with SideStrafe on WoT, so I went to check his channel out, and I found this:
Don't you play at Combat South, Marcus? Recognise anyone?
'Cos I just found him as he did a video with SideStrafe on WoT, so I went to check his channel out, and I found this:
Don't you play at Combat South, Marcus? Recognise anyone?
TacMaster
Members
- Dec 3, 2012
- 1,888
- 848
Recently been getting back into WoT. Bought myself an SU100Y after seeing a Jingles video featuring one where he hinted they may be removed from the store in the near future, so I decided to get one quickly. Had a monster first game in it (ammo racking a VK 30.01 and M6 and derping a Stug right in the side) however I don't have a screenshot of the results or a replay :/
Some results from a game yesterday:
End result was about 1.2K XP. I end up spending a LOT on ammunition though.
Also been grinding up the British AT line- managed to reach tier 6, only to be massively disappointed by the AT8- it's a pile of shite compared to the AT2. I don't mind the speed, the armour's still good despite the massive weak commander's hatch- but the first 2 guns are shockingly bad. I can't hope to damage half the tanks above tier 6 that I get mixed with in games. I'm having to free XP myself to the first decent gun.
I've also resumed my grind up the British light/medium line. I'm almost at tier 5, and I'll be attempting to get further as a clan I've recently joined prefers it's members to use British vehicles. I may also take the Brit SPG line up again, but then I might start neglecting my favourite tanks.....choices, choices.
Some results from a game yesterday:
End result was about 1.2K XP. I end up spending a LOT on ammunition though.
Also been grinding up the British AT line- managed to reach tier 6, only to be massively disappointed by the AT8- it's a pile of shite compared to the AT2. I don't mind the speed, the armour's still good despite the massive weak commander's hatch- but the first 2 guns are shockingly bad. I can't hope to damage half the tanks above tier 6 that I get mixed with in games. I'm having to free XP myself to the first decent gun.
I've also resumed my grind up the British light/medium line. I'm almost at tier 5, and I'll be attempting to get further as a clan I've recently joined prefers it's members to use British vehicles. I may also take the Brit SPG line up again, but then I might start neglecting my favourite tanks.....choices, choices.
Last edited by a moderator:
Didn't know this thread was here. Been playing since the closed beta days. I bounce around with what I play - presently concentrating on a US T37 - close the the M41 but having a blast in it. Only bought two premium tanks - TOG (HMS Caveat Emptor) in a sale and E25 after having seen the Ranzar TMNT video.
JamesAirsofterAgent
Members
- Aug 14, 2014
- 507
- 205
I play on the ipad version.
TacMaster
Members
- Dec 3, 2012
- 1,888
- 848
Finally managed to grind enough free XP for the 77mm gun on the AT8- it's much better than the initial 2 guns, however my M36 Jackson is still a favourite. Love that TD with it's glorious 90mm gun. It's the KV killer, I've taken so many of those Russian heavies out with it
Similar threads
