Well Socom Tactical won't ever be getting my money again!

Jesus guys, he's referring to the fact that they government will happily feed contentious issues to the media to take the dairy off of their fuck ups.
Who remembers around the time of 9.11, the leaked email from a high level civil servant that said something like "this is great, everyone is looking at the twin towers, we might get away with our latest clusterfuck"
 
Could that not apply to any other YouTuber as well though, like Airsoft Camman? He is popular, and that scenario could play out in exactly the same way. Granted, ACM doesn't actively encourage headshots but young people still watch videos and might be tempted to be stupid with a RIF.

Plus I'm pretty sure the "I done it because of this" has been played out so many times with stuff like violent films and video games; I would hope the government is at least smart enough to see it as a scapegoat.
i dunno if you know this .... but its not about the headshots, its about the .177 air pistol, shooting people with no eye protection on , ignoring safety prompts that void site insurance , thats just 3 of a long list
 
i dunno if you know this .... but its not about the headshots, its about the .177 air pistol, shooting people with no eye protection on , ignoring safety prompts that void site insurance , thats just 3 of a long list
Doesn't he also dodge bans by signing waivers (for what they're worth) with a false name?

He also planned to doxx another youtuber who has a fraction of the subs that he does after calling out his fake hitmarkers in his 'cheater' videos. He offered a bounty for this persons address, email, place of work and all other personal details while putting their legal name out to all his instagram followers.

Didn't he also get recording equipment banned at more than a few fields somewhat recently as he was running a 'best headshot competition' which, I can only guess, resulted in a significant uptick of people unnecessarily being hit in the head/face?

Didn't he upload a video of him playing in Germany (?) where other players are quite literally saying he's cheating his dick off?
 
Twatting Cumstain is scum.
Politicians inflate legitimate if minor problems for political capital.
Clickbait vids damage whatever they cover.
Shops make commercial decisions.

We all wish that KM didn't exist.
We all wish that kneejerk bans don't happen.
We all wish that clickbait vids didn't exist.
We all wish that shops could display their genuine passion for their chosen subjects, not what merely pays.

These are the facts that we work with gents and ladies.

No point arguing about it.
 
Lol, i think most of us have disliked him for so long that we'd forgotten most of the reasons why, other than the fact he's an obnoxious twat.

It does get hard to seperate the damage done by the man, which i'm not denying but i will say some of the stories do present a little apocryphal.

But what is undeniable is the clickbait persona, even if the man behind it is a saint, the persona is what does the damage, its the kind of thing that would get played at the tribunal by people who want to say "see airsoft encourages this sort of anti-social and violent behaviour"
 
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Man, I guess I'm really lucky I don't have a horse in this race because I only really buy from UK retailers incredibly sporadically, (except FireSupport and Redux I guess).
 
Well that was an interesting Tuesday morning read!

Boycotts, Violent Crime, Racism, Transphobia and the impending doom of airsoft all rolled into one thread - who'd have thought it!?!

On a personal note, in my opinion, SOCOM is a fantastic shop and have only ever received first class service from them.

This does feel rather ridiculous, for example: I'm not really a huge fan of James Watt (Former CEO and founder of Brewdog), he has a despicable track record for treating his staff, suppliers and business like shite. Doesnt mean I'm boycotting Tesco because they sell his beer...

As has previously been stated, think we all have much bigger challenges that are worth getting our proverbial knickers twisted about. An airsoft shop selling some ghillie suits doesn't quite make the cut for me
 
As much as he's a twat licking cumstains isn't going to get airsoft banned. What's far more likely to get it banned are idiots waving rifs around in public. Also the government have bigger issues to deal with right now
Smaller issues that grab headlines, ie anything to do with guns, are always useful to divert attention from bigger issues!
 
You lot really have nothing better to do eh?

I completely understand the hate towards KM and his mates, there are many things about him i don't like myself but you forget to mention that the point of investing money into opening a store to sell something is to earn money, naturally a niche shop will sell what people want and if people want KMCS suits, i don't see why said store shouldn't sell those.
It's nothing illegal, yes there is moral controversy about the "manufacturer" but at the end of the day the shop isn't posing any threat to the existence of Airsoft over there.

TL;DR quit bitching, there are more significant things to whine about.
 
This seems to need to be clarified. My point was that Trans people ( I am well aware how many trans people there are in Airsoft, all are welcome if they don't act like a tool.) and ethic minorities ( refugees) are being persecuted by the press, government and under increasing risk of violence from the general public stirred up by said press and government.
People can do what they want. I personally am happy)think it's the right thing to do, by boycott Airsoft retailers , sites, media personalities if they risk Airsoft continuing in this country. There is a lot of complacency on this thread and from Airsoft retailers in general. Just because things have blown over before doesn't mean one more event what catch in the public's mind and some group/politician makes it their mission to end airsoft.
 
I think the main argument is though. KM will make content, be a douche, inspire others to play like him and generate the same risk to airsoft with or without socom selling his gear. The only person getting punished by a boycott is the retailer. Even if all retailers refused to sell his gear. He will still have his own website and he will still be around doing the same stuff. A boycott will accomplish nothing.
 
I think the main argument is though. KM will make content, be a douche, inspire others to play like him and generate the same risk to airsoft with or without socom selling his gear. The only person getting punished by a boycott is the retailer. Even if all retailers refused to sell his gear. He will still have his own website and he will still be around doing the same stuff. A boycott will accomplish nothing.

Literally this. Boycotting a company for selling his gear does nothing to stop him being a twat, It also does nothing to stop airsoft getting banned in the made up scenario. The only thing getting effected is the retailer...
 
I think the main argument is though. KM will make content, be a douche, inspire others to play like him and generate the same risk to airsoft with or without socom selling his gear. The only person getting punished by a boycott is the retailer. Even if all retailers refused to sell his gear. He will still have his own website and he will still be around doing the same stuff. A boycott will accomplish nothing.
He can do this because sites let him. If the Airsoft industry acted responsible and collectively he would have no content, no influence. If Airsoft retailers are too short sighted to see the risk. If retailers aren't willing to act in the best interest of the UK Airsoft community a boycott is perfectly valid. How many posts are there about shitty unethical behaviour of UK retailers. With holding our money is the only power we have. There are many retailers I won't buy from due to personal experience or reputation.
 
I think the main argument is though. KM will make content, be a douche, inspire others to play like him and generate the same risk to airsoft with or without socom selling his gear. The only person getting punished by a boycott is the retailer. Even if all retailers refused to sell his gear. He will still have his own website and he will still be around doing the same stuff. A boycott will accomplish nothing.

If they lose sales for stocking his stuff, they'll stop stocking it, and that means km gets rewarded less for being, well, km.

Because the reason he is doing what he's doing is because he can get rich from the ad money and merch sales, if he couldnt do that he'd have to get a real job and enjoy being fired if he tries to act in the office the way he does on site.

Thats the theory anyway, but these days the world is particularly ripe with examples of this on a much grander scale.
 
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