Shoulder armour - molle

This is an interesting thread.

The reason I say this is because no one seems to have issues with osprey or plate carriers. Loads of pouches etc. Yet shoulder protection well that's a different issue.

Those that say padding protection etc. How many wear a face mask? Those that say realism of loadours. Well I have a garage full of various bits of issued protection and yes sometimes they are mandated. Combat nappies, shoulder protection, neck guards etc. Do I like or want to wear them at work? Nope. Can I site studies of speed v protection? Yep loads. So my take is wear what you want. Accept you may not feel it. But play honestly.

The reason I say the last, yes I don't post often but I have been in the game and yes that's what it is, for years, is because it's that. But pain is pain. So if someone wants to avoid it and I get that because it can hurt I won't judge that. It's all about honesty.

I know some will disagree. Wearing helmets. Can't feel it. Knee pads I snipe I can hit you when your in a poor fire position. Feel it? Nope. Day sacks? Feel it? Not a chance. Foot seen under a vehicle? Yeah I can also get you. That an issue? Nope.

Play well play fair and be honest. Been lit up on full auto and seen bbs flying past and just accepted it's the inevitable your going to get hit? Gonna happen take it and know the spirit of the game. Take it turn around and respect the player that got the drop on you.

 
This is an interesting thread.

The reason I say this is because no one seems to have issues with osprey or plate carriers. Loads of pouches etc. Yet shoulder protection well that's a different issue.

Those that say padding protection etc. How many wear a face mask? Those that say realism of loadours. Well I have a garage full of various bits of issued protection and yes sometimes they are mandated. Combat nappies, shoulder protection, neck guards etc. Do I like or want to wear them at work? Nope. Can I site studies of speed v protection? Yep loads. So my take is wear what you want. Accept you may not feel it. But play honestly.

The reason I say the last, yes I don't post often but I have been in the game and yes that's what it is, for years, is because it's that. But pain is pain. So if someone wants to avoid it and I get that because it can hurt I won't judge that. It's all about honesty.

I know some will disagree. Wearing helmets. Can't feel it. Knee pads I snipe I can hit you when your in a poor fire position. Feel it? Nope. Day sacks? Feel it? Not a chance. Foot seen under a vehicle? Yeah I can also get you. That an issue? Nope.

Play well play fair and be honest. Been lit up on full auto and seen bbs flying past and just accepted it's the inevitable your going to get hit? Gonna happen take it and know the spirit of the game. Take it turn around and respect the player that got the drop on you.
But how can you be honest if you dont feel it?
I do have an issue with plate carriers or any gear which prevents you feeling your hits. Pouches are acceptable because you need to carry stuff so that's unavoidable. Padding because you dont want to feel it or because you think it looks good is stupid though. All loadouts should be as minimal as possible to help prevent issues. Worst thing is idiots who wear back packs for an hour long game, its totally unnecessary and nothing anyone says will make believe that a bloody bergen is necessary to for a short skirmish.

Using face protection as an example was a bit daft though as there is a world of difference between an owie and a mouth full of broken teeth.

If anybody finds airsoft too uncomfortable then maybe lazer tag is more for them because the sting is an essential part of the game.

 
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This is an interesting thread.

The reason I say this is because no one seems to have issues with osprey or plate carriers. Loads of pouches etc. Yet shoulder protection well that's a different issue.

Those that say padding protection etc. How many wear a face mask? Those that say realism of loadours. Well I have a garage full of various bits of issued protection and yes sometimes they are mandated. Combat nappies, shoulder protection, neck guards etc. Do I like or want to wear them at work? Nope. Can I site studies of speed v protection? Yep loads. So my take is wear what you want. Accept you may not feel it. But play honestly.

The reason I say the last, yes I don't post often but I have been in the game and yes that's what it is, for years, is because it's that. But pain is pain. So if someone wants to avoid it and I get that because it can hurt I won't judge that. It's all about honesty.

I know some will disagree. Wearing helmets. Can't feel it. Knee pads I snipe I can hit you when your in a poor fire position. Feel it? Nope. Day sacks? Feel it? Not a chance. Foot seen under a vehicle? Yeah I can also get you. That an issue? Nope.

Play well play fair and be honest. Been lit up on full auto and seen bbs flying past and just accepted it's the inevitable your going to get hit? Gonna happen take it and know the spirit of the game. Take it turn around and respect the player that got the drop on you.
If you think that is about shoulder protection then you did not read the thread. I don't think anyone objected to the OP having shoulder armour, merely their reason for wanting it which is objectionable.

Furthermore, I did not mention this before, but the OP said "I keep getting hit where there's no padding". Has the OP considered people might have been doing that deliberately?

I've had a few games where I watched a bunch of tracer rounds bounce off someone back, on one occasion the guy turned around, shot at me dived for cover and had the audacity to moan because I completely ignored his hits on me and continued to advance, for the rest of that day I shot that particular guy in the thighs.

 
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Personally, I would say there's no issue with wearing as much armour as you like if it has a hard outer material - you don't need to feel it, but as long as you know it's there, and you call your hits, there's no issue. No different to a helmet where you can't feel a thing but hear the distinctive "crack" of a BB. I'm just about to start a new thread on some real military stuff in relation to this.

 
Personally, I would say there's no issue with wearing as much armour as you like if it has a hard outer material - you don't need to feel it, but as long as you know it's there, and you call your hits, there's no issue. No different to a helmet where you can't feel a thing but hear the distinctive "crack" of a BB. I'm just about to start a new thread on some real military stuff in relation to this.

As I said above, once the BBs reach a certain distance of travel, there is not enough energy left to "hear" them if you can't feel it.

Just so you know, I use a helmet, plate carrier, and battlebelt when I play. I am not padding free like Imtriggerhappy, though I have played cqb in just a tshirt and bare arms and 330 fps at 2 feet to the chest is painful!

 
Gents I must say this thread has raised some interesting and valid points... I appreciate the advice of much more seasoned players than myself, admittedly it was as much curiousness as to whether it could be done as opposed to any practical purpose (something which has been raised here) perhaps keeping the weight of the load out down plus being able to get my rifle into position more quickly I feel is much more important having played CQB again since, still learning as I go, again though the advice is much appreciated

 
There are people that want to wear loads of protection, there are those that will just play in a t-shirt (and shorts even). The issue isn't about how much protection you have or don't have (although there is always some willy waving from both camps) it's about whether or not you call your hits. Now, I wear what I feel is functional and what works for me. Have I missed hits because they're hit my chest rig and not me? Sure, I don't doubt it. Do I try my best to make sure I DO take my hits? Absolutely. If you wear a lot of "protective gear" then you just have to try and be extra vigilant that you're not pissing everyone off by inadvertently not taking hits. I've seen just as many PC wearing guys that take every single hit as I've seen people playing in just t-shirt and jeans with a belt rig that play like they're surrounded by a personal force field.

Of course, if you're doing it deliberately then you're breaking rule No.1 - "Don't be a dick".

 
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