Recommend me a motor and gear set?

[Sitting Duck]

Lovely looking bit of work

One question - is that 16rps on 11.1v ???

Coz f*ck me the Titan is either pausing like nutz or something is up

A lame G&G stock with a crappy 18k grey motor on 11.1v & std gears would be about that or just over

Remember you rewired, probably deans and ceramics etc... on 16 or 17.25:1 instead of 18.65:1

I would consider plug in a RC power meter and shooting a short 5-10 sec burst on auto check ya amps

if you are above 15amps on a modest build with a 22k motor 16/17:1 gears m105 something is up

the motor height/bevel/angle ain't quite near perfect

Now you might be running it on a lamey 1200mah 15c 11.1v then maybe that might explain it a little

but on a decent 25c 2000mah you should hit 20rps even with a 22k motor imho

something like this:

or the cheaper one:

have to solder your own deans on cheapo £6 one but plug it in and give it a burst to see the amps its pulling

fast speed motors on std gears or balanced motors on fast gears should hit about 18a to 20a tops

slower motors & not so quick gears 15a tops

absolute sweet stuff is 12a & nudging 20rps on 7.4v 25c is best I have got so far

(my meter might be out a smidge or I just got very very lucky on that one I think)

amps are not everything - but the amps & sound helps point just how sweet it is all shimmed up & running

lovely build indeed sir - beautiful stuff

just when you get a chance maybe test the amps coz you might be losing a few rps

(or Titan is slowing/pausing the cycle/rps)

Other thing is mag misfed a bit giving you a much slower rps

(had that before - haven't we all)

Best one is stripping a box down to pieces coz it not feeding right

can't be mag - it is a mid cap

nope the bb's were getting stuck in the snakey bit of spring

and I know always try more more mags etc.....

But was 101% certain mag was fine coz bb's were showing/droping out when removed

but not enough force to feed coz they jammed at snake/bend

ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHH - yeah that mag is somewhere down the garden

More I think about it you could have misfed on chrono or titan pausing the cycle

coz 16rps is not exactly instant snappiness - 20+ is what I'd start to call snappy

(but you got micro trigger so yeah quite responsive I guess)

Run audiocity thingy or BPS meter on your phone - though phone app is hit/miss

(likes a certain kind of sound to work - often says crazy stuff like 58rps - wtf, 18rps ahh more like it)

This I have used but like I say was a bit hit/miss due to sound or where you recorded sound from

(or with barrel or bare box running etc... not perfect but can give rough idea if it works ok)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzzors2k.BPSmeter&hl=en

just saying you could have dropped a few rps due to something daft I reckon

see how it goes - lovely looking bad boy/girl         sweeeeeeeeet

 

[Davegolf]

That motor is pokey for sure!

I think you will always hear something motor wise if you predominately run HPA or GAS.

I would say give the motor a few K to run in though, I think they are noisier new.

Could be an issue there tho, if the Titan settings are stock then I'd expect 16rps on a 7.4 at that gear ratio

Also you could lose a slight amount of noise from running a non full metal toothed piston.

Very nice setup!

 

[Shizbazki]

@Sitting Duck

I reckon there is a pinion to bevel gear issue.

When i shimmed the gears starting with pinion to bevel i forgot to anticipate the presence of wires and so shimmed the pinion to bevel gear, then bevel to spur and so on. While without the motor in the gears span smoothly and even moved if you jiggled the gearbox about. But with the motor and wires in the pistol grip i think the wires have pushed the motor up way too far as the motor adjustment screw has to go in quite far before it engages the motor and even then only does half a turn before it feels like the motor has gone too far in. I have tried to run the gun without the motor and physically push the motor with my thumb and it does in my opinion sound better.

TBH i have always had a problem with pistol grip floor plates pushing the motor up too far, ill probably take the whole thing apart again on Monday as im super busy over the weekend with other stuff. 

Oh and the batteries i am using are VP 1000mAh 20c 11.1v LiPos

As for the mags, i know they can keep up as my HPA gun runs at 30RPS (but only in 5 round bursts as i am a sensible HPA owner) and the mags feed flawlessly.

 

[Davegolf]

Really is a piece of eye candy, bet you love rocking that thing!

You do have a serious problem to address tho...

I've spotted the difference, there's no QD sling plate on the AEG lower... slacking

 

[Shizbazki]

Really is a piece of eye candy, bet you love rocking that thing!

You do have a serious problem to address tho...

I've spotted the difference, there's no QD sling plate on the AEG lower... slacking

Yeah i know, i could not find a similar one in time and the only one i found the same cost £35. I aint paying £35 for just a small chunk of metal with holes in it. Ill keep my eyes peeled for one as my sling only has a QD attachment to it.

 

[Sitting Duck]

Everybody has got their own methods of doing crap

and V2's are not as easy as a v3 with motor cage to set the height

with v2's you gotta fit the grip to half of box and set height

trying to get ya head in there from a few angles to kinda judge it is ok....

(I'd say the above pic is perhaps a smidge high at first glance but I'd wanna see it from all angles to gauge it best)

I mean you can watch Rogers - "Shut Up Gears" 3 part guide but drilling holes n crap is a bit OTT

Plus you don't wanna go that friggin' nutz on a new CNC box

Get your height set right and shim up from there as best you can

Doing the pistol grip to box will give you an idea on how far up it all goes

Some grips and some motors really have to wound up high

Motors don't vary that much in length - about 0.5mm perhaps

But yeah I've found some builds the motor is almost up really high to its max

& others the motor is quite friggin' low - though most are about 60% to 75% height

bit of a bollock-ache I know but kinda try aim for best possible results

(within reason - I'm fairly sad but I'm not hacking/drilling holes in boxes ffs)

If I get it somewhere near Rogers (or Trigger's builds) then I'm pretty damn pleased