MP7 - AEP or GBB

[monkee]

Fire Support currently have them in stock (http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/kwa-umarex-mp7-a1-gas-blowback-smg) - I know its already been mentioned but just to make sure, the mags can be very tricky to get hold of and are slightly more expensive than the TM ones.

I have the KWA/Umarex version and love it - the only problems was getting hold of the mags, but providing you don't mind waiting for shipping times from China then you'll be fine!

 

[Tariq]

NPAS is easy to fit. Takes about 5-10 mins and all you need is a small screwdriver and something to knock pins out.

You can also get a low power bolt, which is a fixed system and replaces the entire standard bolt. Little more expensive and doesn't offer adjust-ability. however it's generally about 330fps, where the NPAS is about 300 max. It's also a straight swap so just takes seconds to fit.

AFAIK the KWA magazines are slowly being discontinued, so stock is slowly getting smaller. Just checked a few popular HK sites and they are all out of stock.

Glad I bought mine when i did.

It would probably be easier to just buy the TM, and stock up on nozzles

 

[gwr3850]

It's a very good point. I have seen a TM version somewhere for 295 which isn't too bad. And on the site you linked TM mags are 35, compared to 59 for the KWA ones.

It would make more financial sense to get the TM one. What gas can the TM ones withstand though? I also here there's a angry gun suppressor that boosts FPS to about 350 for the TM mp7. I just hope the TM would perform as well as you reported in winter Tariq!!

Thanks for the input Monkee and Tariq!! Apparently UMarex have possibly lost the HK contract??

 

[Tariq]

Yeah they did.

Which is ok if you already have a gun and magazines, but not as a new customer.

I now have 9 MP7 magazines all in brilliant condition which are just going to go up and up in value LOL.

The TM should be fine in the cold. Haven't tried one that low temps though. Usually you just use more powerful gas to cope through winter. Just have a spare nozzle and run green gas maybe if you start to struggle.

 

[gwr3850]

Hmmm I see nice pointers Tariq!! Can I use green gas normally or should I use kickass gas for example?

 

[M_P]

In normal weather a tm won't take green/propane. go for 144a or whatever its.called these days.

kick ass is useless, don't touch it.

There's someone on another forum who had a tm at a milsim when it was below freezing and said it went OK, so I assume it can be too bad.

 

[gwr3850]

Ah nice one. I noticed on a video doing a review they were using "top gas". Think it was ehobbyasia. Pro airsoft supplies stock the tm one and confirmed use 144a gas. Will hopefully get it next week!!

 

[jcheeseright]

I have the TM MP7 GBB and it's absolutely exceptional, have used it in extremely cold conditions (the basement of the courthouse in bristol) and it's never missed a beat. Not only that unless you're a fan of the baghdad unload you'll get 2 full mags out of one fill of gas!

Have used it as a primary for both woodland and CQB and I am entirely in love with it, so much so that my long suffering girlfriend is a little bit jealous of it! The range is awesome, accuracy is better than my marui HK416 (which was nearly twice the cost), so much so that at 40' I hit a 2" x 2" target 40 times with 40 BBs.

If I could carry more than 200 shots (I only have 5 mags) I would use it as my primary for EVERYTHING.

 

[gwr3850]

That sounds awesome!! My local site have some of the uma ones in stock and good prices so I've taken that option. Can't wait to have it