Mid cap advice

[Rickwales]

Was looking at magazines on the Taiwangun website and came across this advice. Not heard this before. Is this correct?

Low-cap magazines must be prepared in particular way before first usage. Steps that must be made:
during first usage, magazine MUST NOT be fully loaded with bb's,
before first usage, magazine SHOULD be oiled with silicon oil for better working,
during first usage, magazine SHOULD be loaded with few bb's and subsequently core out. After magazine SHOULD be loaded with 10 bb's more than first time and subsequently core out. Activity SHOULD be repeated until full mag capacity will be achieved.

 

[Mtemprell]

Was looking at magazines on the Taiwangun website and came across this advice. Not heard this before. Is this correct?

Low-cap magazines must be prepared in particular way before first usage. Steps that must be made:
during first usage, magazine MUST NOT be fully loaded with bb's,
before first usage, magazine SHOULD be oiled with silicon oil for better working,
during first usage, magazine SHOULD be loaded with few bb's and subsequently core out. After magazine SHOULD be loaded with 10 bb's more than first time and subsequently core out. Activity SHOULD be repeated until full mag capacity will be achieved.

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That is the first time I've ever heard that one. I've always used real/mid caps and always loaded them to max-1 bbs eg a 30 round mag load to 29. They don't want silicon lube on the followers as this would contaminated the bbs and cause hop issues.

 

[Rickwales]

I do put a little gun oil on the springs, but don't think it's silicone based and I don't use much and wipe off the excess.

 

[Mtemprell]

I do put a little gun oil on the springs, but don't think it's silicone based and I don't use much and wipe off the excess.

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A little oil on the spring shouldn't hurt at all. Helps it move round the mag better.

 

[Rickwales]

A little oil on the spring shouldn't hurt at all. Helps it move round the mag better.

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That's what I thought. It was the bit about partially loading the mags that I've never heard before. What do you think?

 

[Mtemprell]

That's what I thought. It was the bit about partially loading the mags that I've never heard before. What do you think?

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Personally I don't understand why. As a spring is a spring and fully loading it will be the same if new or bedded in in stages. I think from my experience fully loading from day 1 won't damage anything. But I do load a new mag slower than a bedded in mag so things can sit in there correct place.

 

[Rickwales]

Yep that's sensible.

 

[Cannonfodder]

Was looking at magazines on the Taiwangun website and came across this advice. Not heard this before. Is this correct?

Low-cap magazines must be prepared in particular way before first usage. Steps that must be made:
during first usage, magazine MUST NOT be fully loaded with bb's,
before first usage, magazine SHOULD be oiled with silicon oil for better working,
during first usage, magazine SHOULD be loaded with few bb's and subsequently core out. After magazine SHOULD be loaded with 10 bb's more than first time and subsequently core out. Activity SHOULD be repeated until full mag capacity will be achieved.

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I've heard the same in the past but I've usually just filled them up. I have had a few mags which were a bit finicky with feeding at first but sorted themselves out after a few uses.

 

[ButcherBill]

I can see the logic in this, the mag I got with the L403A1 I had to gradually increase how many bb's I put in it at first, would only load 9 at first. I ended up leaving the mag loaded for a week or so to weaken the spring. The same V3 mag for my M16A2 was fine from the get go.

 

[Rickwales]

I can see the logic in this, the mag I got with the L403A1 I had to gradually increase how many bb's I put in it at first, would only load 9 at first. I ended up leaving the mag loaded for a week or so to weaken the spring. The same V3 mag for my M16A2 was fine from the get go.

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Only 9? What's the capacity?

 

[ButcherBill]

30 in a gas mag usually.

 

[Rickwales]

Ok. That makes some sense.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Bedding the spring in probably isnt necessary to be too active about.

Unloading a few rounds is a good idea to prevent feeding issues, and becomes more relevant the stronger the springs/the bigger the mag, a cut up stub of inner barrel with a pin ~60mm from the end can be used as a quick reliable unloader.

The silicon oil thing does help, yes the rounds you're firing right after oiling will be a bit contaminated and fly weird but it wont take long for it to clear up, wont ruin the gun if you're practicing good cleaning routines.

But ultimately good quality ammo and a good bedded in mag should not really need these interventions too regularly.

Thats for standard mid caps at least, low caps i suspect wont be as bad if the ammo stack isnt curving around itself like a pretzel inside the mag.

 

[The_Lord_Poncho]

I needed to work through this procedure on some of my mid caps, in order to achieve full capacity, and to get them feeding right, but not on others. I have a bag of mixed weight BBs that i wouldn't want to skirmish with, but are perfect for the task. A drop of silicone oil on the follower of the mag, and then load/unload 5/6 or so times. The silicone contaminated BBs go back into the bag and are put aside for the next time i have an issue with a mag. It does seem to help when you have a new and poorly performing mag - possibly gets the spring moving slickly in the channel, stopping it getting bunched up/caught on manufacturing imperfections in the plastic channel.

On my most used mags (140rd Krytac M4 mags that I absolutely love), I never had to go through this initial procedure, but because they are used so heavily, every year or so i strip them down, and clean out the channel with a cotton wool bud soaked in silicone oil, ensuring that only a trace of silicone remains before I reassemble.

 

[Baser]

If I get the time I do 1/3 empty then 1/2 empty then 2/3 fill new mags and leave them the stand for a bit but again not convinced it makes a difference compared to the mags I’ve bought at a game site in a panic, filled to the max and run straight into a game.

Reminds me one of my Apache mags wasn’t feeding that well last time I used and needs investigating.

 

[Rickwales]

Some good feedback cheers, I'll do it from now in when I get new mags just in case.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

to emphasise on my earlier point about ammo, if i had a penny for every misfeeding gun i've "fixed" by handing the owner a magfull of geoffs and saying "try that".