Importing a RIF in current climate

[Rogerborg]

Doesn't the listed price already include Polish VAT?

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Hmm. A CM028S (for example) is listed at £87.55, or at €101.01, which are about equivalent.  So, yes, they shouldn't be billing us to pay protection money to both mobs.

However, I don't see a way to not get mugged.  One to take up with them, if you can.

 

[Tommikka]

Doesn't the listed price already include Polish VAT? If that is the case shouldn't we be able to claim  back the tax before paying UK VAT?

Or does it only work when buying goods from the EU in person and claiming when exiting the EU?

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VAT export reclaim is for when you actually pay their VAT

Buy remotely as export and the invoice will either say they charged UK VAT or no VAT 

Even if the top item figure was the same inclusive price originally 

If Polish VAT is declared on the invoice on an export sale then you can deal with their tax export rules and claim if valid 

 

[Rogerborg]

If Polish VAT is declared on the invoice on an export sale then you can deal with their tax export rules and claim if valid 

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Hmm, I can only find how to do that as a UK VAT registered business, and only for business supplies: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/refunds-of-uk-vat-for-non-uk-businesses-or-eu-vat-for-uk-businesses

It doesn't seem like GunFire / TaiwanGun or any other Eurosellers should be charging EuroVAT on exports, as it means it gets paid twice to two different protection rackets. I'd have wonder if they're simply pocketing it as profit.

I have similar suspicious about AliExpress sellers who claim to be paying UK VAT and duty at source, so that goods can come through UK customs.  Good for us, but I do wonder - are they really paying it, or just slapping a label on the package.

 

[ak2m4]

Hmm, I can only find how to do that as a UK VAT registered business, and only for business supplies: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/refunds-of-uk-vat-for-non-uk-businesses-or-eu-vat-for-uk-businesses

It doesn't seem like GunFire / TaiwanGun or any other Eurosellers should be charging EuroVAT on exports, as it means it gets paid twice to two different protection rackets. I'd have wonder if they're simply pocketing it as profit.

I have similar suspicious about AliExpress sellers who claim to be paying UK VAT and duty at source, so that goods can come through UK customs.  Good for us, but I do wonder - are they really paying it, or just slapping a label on the package.

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I've wondered about this as well.  I would guess since Aliexpress is the payment provider everything goes through them but who's to say they actually pay the UK government the correct fees.  There's no way they can check, when you look at an Aliexpress label there's no indication of any tax paid.   So Aliexpress make a little extra from the 20%, UK government make a little extra from whatever payments are made and can reduce checks on goods coming in (extra saving).  

The only saving grace here is if you use a Chinese or HK website who don't charge UK VAT their side, their might be less checks so less chance of import tax and duty.  

 

[Tommikka]

It doesn't seem like GunFire / TaiwanGun or any other Eurosellers should be charging EuroVAT on exports, as it means it gets paid twice to two different protection rackets. I'd have wonder if they're simply pocketing it as profit.

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Exactly that.

When it goes into the accounts it will be an internal Polish sale at €100 item value €23 Polish VAT, (€123 total) and a UK export sale of €123 item value, €0 Polish VAT, €24.60 UK VAT (€147.60 total)

I have similar suspicious about AliExpress sellers who claim to be paying UK VAT and duty at source, so that goods can come through UK customs.  Good for us, but I do wonder - are they really paying it, or just slapping a label on the package.

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Label on the package I would hazard a guess 

Especially as it doesn’t get paid by transaction at the time, but on a (quarterly?) account 

Unless someone sits in the depot checking HMRC reference numbers are valid they will fly past

Then does the sellers registration actually exist, or will their ledger have every transaction on it?

Remember Asian traders ‘customs insurance’?

You either bought your item and later found out if the package and declaration pass through without  you getting picked up with a charge and handling fee, or you paid for ‘insurance’ and they would still put on a dodgy ‘sample value $0.01’ declaration but offer to pay you back any charges