I haven't received an email with my ukara number

[Cretamin]

I submitted an application form at my local field about 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything back yet. I know there shouldn't be anything wrong with the application as my brother did it at the same time as me and has had an email with his ukara number about a week later. We've played the same number of games at that site together and submitted the form together so I would have assumed that we would both get it at the same time.

Could it be an issue that we both live at the same address and have the same last name or something? Or could it just be they've got my email wrong? What's the best way of finding out if it's gone through? 

 

[Shamal]

Call your local site and ask?

 

[Guest]

I submitted an application form at my local field about 3 weeks ago but haven't heard anything back yet. I know there shouldn't be anything wrong with the application as my brother did it at the same time as me and has had an email with his ukara number about a week later. We've played the same number of games at that site together and submitted the form together so I would have assumed that we would both get it at the same time.

Could it be an issue that we both live at the same address and have the same last name or something? Or could it just be they've got my email wrong? What's the best way of finding out if it's gone through? 

Any unusual elements to your email? Like an underscore, or the number 5 that could have been mistaken  for an S ?

I’ve had several like that recently

 

[Rogerborg]

Call your local site and ask?

That. UKARA numbers are really site membership numbers, it's all between them and UKARA. There's even an app for it now, last time I got one it was handed out on the spot by the site.

 

[Cretamin]

That. UKARA numbers are really site membership numbers, it's all between them and UKARA. There's even an app for it now, last time I got one it was handed out on the spot by the site.

I see thanks I'll call them tomorrow. I thought it was separate and the site just confirmed I was an active player. 

 

[Rogerborg]

I thought it was separate and the site just confirmed I was an active player. 

UKARA is a centralised scheme, but the numbers are site specific, and they're best placed to figure out what went wrong and sort it out.

 

[Enid_Puceflange]

Any unusual elements to your email? Like an underscore, or the number 5 that could have been mistaken  for an S ?

I’ve had several like that recently

This ??
We can do it on the spot through the app

Registered player gets the confirmation email pretty much immediately 

Double check your email addy with the site for a typo ?

 

[ak2m4]

That. UKARA numbers are really site membership numbers, it's all between them and UKARA. There's even an app for it now, last time I got one it was handed out on the spot by the site.

Ahh finally the site owner / admin have their own app to update directly?  

 

[Speedbird_666]

So the site owners get a fancy new App, but will us mere mortals ever get the player self-check function back? Made UKARA verification on private sales much easier. 

*edit* That was a rhetorical question....

 

[Rogerborg]

Ahh finally the site owner / admin have their own app to update directly?  

Yes, it's not mentioned on the UKARA site, but I was issued a number on the spot by the site, and told that it would be active on the UKARA site immediately - the email from UKARA is just confirmation of that.

 will us mere mortals ever get the player self-check function back? Made UKARA verification on private sales much easier. 

If I were a retailer paying £300 (or whatever it is now) a year to get access to UKARA, I'd be questioning the value of that if Joe Public can do it free and gratis.  I know that there's at least one retailer who will check UKARA numbers for private sellers, which is rather baffling.

 

[Guest]

f I were a retailer paying £300 (or whatever it is now) a year to get access to UKARA, I'd be questioning the value of that if Joe Public can do it free and gratis.  I know that there's at least one retailer who will check UKARA numbers for private sellers, which is rather baffling.

Its not just checking, it’s being able to add your players with your sites exclusive format as well ??

 

[Speedbird_666]

If I were a retailer paying £300 (or whatever it is now) a year to get access to UKARA, I'd be questioning the value of that if Joe Public can do it free and gratis.

Yeh I get it - I just like to whinge about it....?

 

[ak2m4]

@Rogerborg That should help out site admins at least.

I did chat last week to the IT chap I know who's been working on and off on his own airsoft defence system, hopefully he'll have a demo up soon.  What I liked most about it was the ability for players to control their own data.

 

[Rogerborg]

Its not just checking, it’s being able to add your players with your sites exclusive format as well ??

For clarity, my understanding is that retailers pay for UKARA, not sites.  Sites add their players to it, retailers check it to adduce their defence.  Granted some sites are also retailers, but I'm talking about pure retailers.

If they didn't have to pay for access to check, why would they?

 

[Cannonfodder]

Have you checked the junk mail folder? 

 

[ak2m4]

For clarity, my understanding is that retailers pay for UKARA, not sites.  Sites add their players to it, retailers check it to adduce their defence.  Granted some sites are also retailers, but I'm talking about pure retailers.

That's correct, well it was when I enquired last time.  Any system will need to be paid for one way or another I suppose, it's something I've discussed with the developer before.  

 

[Rogerborg]

Any system will need to be paid for one way or another I suppose, it's something I've discussed with the developer before.  

It'll be a tough market to break into, I'm fascinated to know how they're going to get past the Catch-22 of persuading any sites to use a scheme before any retailers have signed up, and vice versa. 

Sites have no incentive to use anything else since there's zero cost to them or their players.  Retailers are already paying to use UKARA, so aren't going to be in a hurry to pay another scheme.

I genuinely wish them the best of luck, they'll need it.

 

[Cannonfodder]

I think one of the biggest issues with getting anyone to sign up to an alternative to ukara is that there have been so many attempts in the past, of which 90% didn't go anywhere. Anyone remember Project Luther? 

 

[Rogerborg]

Anyone remember Project Luther? 

No.

Illustrating the problem.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

No.

Illustrating the problem.

Same, its tricky because ukara has had years to build up recognition with sites, retailers and even non-airsoft entities like customs and courier companies.

Thats a hell of a mountain for any new system has to climb especially in the early days when folk will be hesitant to adopt in case it doesnt work out.

I say that in the hope, if not perhaps expectation that some day a hero will arise.