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Are you asking whether the interpretation of the rule is right, or whether it is right/wrong for them to be able to have restrictions in a particular country.
It’s their service and their rules.
Depending on the parts (and also how you list them) they do restrict airsoft guns and particular parts
You will however see airsoft guns on eBay which may or may not complete. This depends on wording and whether it gets reported / detected
As above, I bought an AK47 bayonet from a Seller on eBay. He was in the UK but I couldn't buy it due to the rules. But he could sell them on the .com to a wider audience but as he was located in the UK and I was I could still not buy it. (I bought it privately to circumvent the block). They have some funny rules.
Also worth noting your rights are governed by your country. My brother had an issue with a USA seller. Both were right in accordance to their countries eBay rules. But my brother as the Buyer found his rules trumped the Seller via the buyer protection which was lacking in the USA rules. SO a Seller in another country may say no (rightfully) but if your countries Buyer eBay rules say yes you win overall.
Also some items get pulled because another Seller doesn't like the competition so they report you to keep their listing as the only option.
Wording is also key as mentioned above and a disclaimer may help stating what it is and what it can or can't be used for.
Also worth noting your rights are governed by your country. My brother had an issue with a USA seller. Both were right in accordance to their countries eBay rules. But my brother as the Buyer found his rules trumped the Seller via the buyer protection which was lacking in the USA rules. SO a Seller in another country may say no (rightfully) but if your countries Buyer eBay rules say yes you win overall.
Also some items get pulled because another Seller doesn't like the competition so they report you to keep their listing as the only option.
Wording is also key as mentioned above and a disclaimer may help stating what it is and what it can or can't be used for.
Rogerborg
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What accessories? I've bought plenty of airsoft stuff via ebay.co.uk, listed as airsoft, including suppressors which you imagine they might get in a flap about given how even the Septics seem to think they're Devil's dongs.
ak2m4
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eBay have been tightening the noose for the past 3 years. At first it started off with works like "M4" and "AK", fast forward 3 years and now it's keywords such as "trigger", "silencer", "barrel" and "grip". As a subscription seller (£25 monthly fee) you firstly get a warning, then you get a 3 day new or edit listing ban, then you get a 30 new or edit listing ban. I've spent hours trying to argue that they are not firearm accessories but they never budge. Not all listings get caught, they are pretty guarded over how their detection algorithm works. You normally end up chatting to some Indian guy when you use their chat function to complain. If you phone up you generally get someone in Ireland.
Last 30 day ban I had I kicked up an almighty fuss and threatened to move to Amazon, I'm sure that would have rocked the eBay share price lol...but in the end they reduced me back down to 3 day ban. I'm slowly removing gear on eBay, had enough, I think a lot of others are doing the same.
I'll dig out their Firearms rules page later...
Last 30 day ban I had I kicked up an almighty fuss and threatened to move to Amazon, I'm sure that would have rocked the eBay share price lol...but in the end they reduced me back down to 3 day ban. I'm slowly removing gear on eBay, had enough, I think a lot of others are doing the same.
I'll dig out their Firearms rules page later...
ak2m4
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It's weird there's no real pattern to it all. Quite a few of the eBay retailers have been hit. I've been slowly moving away from it, posting up less and less but some suppliers rely on it heavily. I guess eBay are just covering their ass. The real problem I've found over the past 5 years of being on there is that there is no real competitor to eBay out there and that's a sad thing to see. Amazon had potential but it's expensive
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I very rarely buy anything airsoft related from eBay or Amazon, generally direct from retailers or airsoft selling sites.
I noticed eBay rules do say no weapon parts, including airsoft, at all
I noticed eBay rules do say no weapon parts, including airsoft, at all
ak2m4
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As eBay have the monopoly on the lower end marketplace they invariably do what they want. Only last week they changed the GUI / frontend to the business sellers page, without telling anyone. It changed to way everyone had to work, made it harder for the customer etc. The eBay forums lit up like a christmas tree - revolution was in the air, accept no where to migrate to lol
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well im even more confused now, even though i got got an email and a message on ebay saying my irem had been removed, and the person i talked to in india said it could not be listed the item i was selling is still listed?
they really dont have a clue do they
they really dont have a clue do they
Is it fully listed & active?
Whats the item number ?
(Perhaps it was flagged as opposed to de-listed)
ak2m4
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You can't revise, you can only cancel I think
3 days - pah nothing I just got handed a 30 day this morning lol
ak2m4
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Here's the current policy:
What is the policy?
The following are not allowed:
- Firearms of any type
- Parts and accessories for assault weapons, including blueprints and instructions
- Any part or accessory in violation of local law
- Firearm receivers, even if incomplete
- Ammunition for firearms, including bullets, cartridges, casings, shells, and hulls
- The following firearm accessories are not allowed:
Gun parts, including, but not limited to, barrels, firing pins, trigger assemblies, and magazines
Firearm accessories that we allow, such as grips, holsters, and scopes, must follow these guidelines:
- The listing must clearly identify the part or accessory being sold as well as the type of firearm it fits (“type” can mean general use and not necessarily brand or manufacturer). For example, “This part can be used with bolt-action rifles."
- The listing cannot show a picture of an actual firearm
Listings that don’t follow these rules may be removed from the site or from search results. Other actions we may take include lowering a seller’s rating, charging additional fees, limiting buying and selling privileges, or suspending an account.
So today I got handed a 30 day ban for a foregrip listing that had been there already for 6 months or so, after I started a chat session with them and asked why, they said because it could be used on an Assault Rifle. I explained how it couldn't, different sizes etc (I know bit of a fib) however their policy kind of contradicts itself. Says "Parts and Accessory" for assault rifles are not allowed then says grips are allowed.
What is the policy?
The following are not allowed:
- Firearms of any type
- Parts and accessories for assault weapons, including blueprints and instructions
- Any part or accessory in violation of local law
- Firearm receivers, even if incomplete
- Ammunition for firearms, including bullets, cartridges, casings, shells, and hulls
- The following firearm accessories are not allowed:
Gun parts, including, but not limited to, barrels, firing pins, trigger assemblies, and magazines
Firearm accessories that we allow, such as grips, holsters, and scopes, must follow these guidelines:
- The listing must clearly identify the part or accessory being sold as well as the type of firearm it fits (“type” can mean general use and not necessarily brand or manufacturer). For example, “This part can be used with bolt-action rifles."
- The listing cannot show a picture of an actual firearm
Listings that don’t follow these rules may be removed from the site or from search results. Other actions we may take include lowering a seller’s rating, charging additional fees, limiting buying and selling privileges, or suspending an account.
So today I got handed a 30 day ban for a foregrip listing that had been there already for 6 months or so, after I started a chat session with them and asked why, they said because it could be used on an Assault Rifle. I explained how it couldn't, different sizes etc (I know bit of a fib) however their policy kind of contradicts itself. Says "Parts and Accessory" for assault rifles are not allowed then says grips are allowed.
Rogerborg
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Kind of? Sounds like you've followed it to the letter.
Huh, ebay.co.uk only turns up 7 hits for "airsoft foregrip" - looks like they have been on a purge.
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FreeFrag.UK
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I had issues earlier this year trying to buy a loadbearing vest from mainland Europe. I raised the issue with eBay and they couldn't see why it wouldn't allow me to put through the purchase until it got handed to another assessor who cited that it could not be sold to UK residents as it breached UK legislation in relation to the sale of knives... I kid you not. All this stemmed from the fact that one of the sleeves on it could accommodate a bayonet.
I challenged it and presented them with the legislation asking them for an explanation on how it actually breached said legislation and they couldn't tell me. In the end I gave up, talked to the seller directly who pointed me in the direction of their own website (wasn't listed in my Google searches due to their location based algorithms) and consequently picked it up that way. Saved me a few quid too so can't complain in the end.
Ebay does have some truly strange policies in place. I guess all the airsoft stuff being purged ties into the high profile shootings over the last few months in the states.
I challenged it and presented them with the legislation asking them for an explanation on how it actually breached said legislation and they couldn't tell me. In the end I gave up, talked to the seller directly who pointed me in the direction of their own website (wasn't listed in my Google searches due to their location based algorithms) and consequently picked it up that way. Saved me a few quid too so can't complain in the end.
Ebay does have some truly strange policies in place. I guess all the airsoft stuff being purged ties into the high profile shootings over the last few months in the states.
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