Cannonfodder
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Probably knew they didn't have a leg to stand on. I wonder how many people the thieving cnut has had to rip off to pay that off
Absolute Airsoft in Reading. What Is it Like?
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Damn you, you're making me defend them...?...they are the only site I've been to that uses barrel socks.I can only relate what I've experienced.Would I tell anyone else to visit there?Not without warnings regarding the chrono especially and as advised there are definately a few regulars who abuse the lack of chrono.I have pressed them about the lack of chrono use at every opportunity,but saying that I haven't been for quite a while.
The reason people play there is the same reason they buy kit off of him.......cheap.
The reason people play there is the same reason they buy kit off of him.......cheap.
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Well, I'm not aware of any other sites where a child has been blinded.
I'd actually be fine with barrel socks, if they were actually enforced, starting with the site owner, marshals, marshals' mates, and regulars.
Are they though?
The only reason I'd go to that site would be to run a 4J sniper and nut-shot anyone wearing a hi-vis.
EDcase
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It may be coincidence but this is the only site where I've been hit (in the eyebrow above my eyepro) that actually drew blood.
It was a 10m shot from a pistol (probably Co2)
Pistols don't generally get tested at sites I know but Co2 ones are not allowed.
It was a 10m shot from a pistol (probably Co2)
Pistols don't generally get tested at sites I know but Co2 ones are not allowed.
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I feel I should say something as there seems to be a lot of hate for this site and I have been playing there with my kids for about a year now and have no problems at all. I have been to a couple of other sites, although I must admit, none of the recommended ones above.
But they are VERY eye-pro strict in the game area and there is absolutely zero dry firing in the safe zone, which is also a mandatory barrel-sock area.
The game area is large enough for there to be several distinct zones, each with different landscapes and features, the marshals seem good (albeit a little strict at times) and the pace between games is brisk. There is a generally very friendly atmosphere as well.
It's not perfect, there are pros and cons, as with anywhere.
People above who say the dry-firing in the safe zone puts them on edge or questions whether they enforce their barrel-sock rules have clearly not been there recently (if at all). Perhaps their current safety policies are in reaction to the accident and being sued (although I see no evidence a case was ever actually brought, let alone adjudicated on; we can speculate if their insurance settled, but really, it seems unlikely) but the accident was 5 years ago now, so I don't think it's lip-service; safety is now part of the culture of the place.
But they are VERY eye-pro strict in the game area and there is absolutely zero dry firing in the safe zone, which is also a mandatory barrel-sock area.
The game area is large enough for there to be several distinct zones, each with different landscapes and features, the marshals seem good (albeit a little strict at times) and the pace between games is brisk. There is a generally very friendly atmosphere as well.
It's not perfect, there are pros and cons, as with anywhere.
People above who say the dry-firing in the safe zone puts them on edge or questions whether they enforce their barrel-sock rules have clearly not been there recently (if at all). Perhaps their current safety policies are in reaction to the accident and being sued (although I see no evidence a case was ever actually brought, let alone adjudicated on; we can speculate if their insurance settled, but really, it seems unlikely) but the accident was 5 years ago now, so I don't think it's lip-service; safety is now part of the culture of the place.
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Rogerborg
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What gave you a contrary impression?
You're OK with a complete lack of chrono?
Shamal
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Well that's great news if they have cleaned up their act. Shame it took a permanant disability to bring it about.
Can you say whether they chronograph at start of game and at random times during day?
Regards
There isn't a "complete lack", I have seen them testing, although I didn't know why (maybe someone reported another player, which anyone can do) but they don't routinely test everyone's gun. They are clear about this though, and above someone comments that "pre-game chrono is largely just theatre" and another says CO2 pistols "don't generally get tested at any sites", even though we all know CO2 pistols are often hot. I have only been to a couple of sites, but I have yet to see any testing of all guns... maybe some do and I just don't know what I am missing...
Maybe it did, but as the incident was nearly 6 years ago now (and at it's heart, I understand one kid pointed a gun at his mates face and pulled the trigger whilst cocking about in the safe-zone, which, without wanting to start a lengthy debate about what could have been done to prevent it, is hard to legislate against), if people are posting their reviews based on the poor safety before that time, it is probably hardly relevant now and perhaps they should preface their review with the fact it is based on a six year old experience! I was there weekend before last, and I was impressed by their safety now, even if it is due to an accident that happened nearly 6 years ago.
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The owner replied to my google review and among other things, said I "lost a piece of their kit".
LOL
LOL
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I got a bottle of bbs, and they wanted the bottle back at the end of day.
Of course I didnt give it back, I paid for it
Of course I didnt give it back, I paid for it
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Why ?, so they can refill it with much cheaper and lower quality bb's than stated on the label ?
Rogerborg
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That's the first time I've seen a rental package mean that you're actually just renting the bottle. I'm surprised they didn't make you go out and scrape up up few thousand BBs to put back in it.
Future prediction: "Rental packages now include a sandwich bag half full of largely-intact BBs"
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Should've pissed in it before handing it back
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Regarding the non-chronoing element of this, when we were looking around for airsoft insurance a few years ago, every company that we contacted had a clause that stated the following or something very similar: "The Insured must chronograph the gun the first time the member plays at the site and after any modifications to ensure compliance;".
Sites that do not do so have invalidated their insurance, which leaves them vulnerable in the event of an accident; they would also forfeit their UKARA registration.
This site is not alone in not-chronoing; during the time that I played at Ultimate Wargames, no guns were ever chrono'd. On one occasion, I asked if I could borrow the chrono to check a gun that I had been working on; they did not have one. There were other issues around safe zone safety, hit taking, removing eye pro in the field between games, and casual racism from the owner. It was a shame because it has the potential to be a great site.
Sites that do not do so have invalidated their insurance, which leaves them vulnerable in the event of an accident; they would also forfeit their UKARA registration.
This site is not alone in not-chronoing; during the time that I played at Ultimate Wargames, no guns were ever chrono'd. On one occasion, I asked if I could borrow the chrono to check a gun that I had been working on; they did not have one. There were other issues around safe zone safety, hit taking, removing eye pro in the field between games, and casual racism from the owner. It was a shame because it has the potential to be a great site.
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