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[Sitting Duck]

Spoon Feeding is one thing

BUT I ain't f*ckin' BREAST FEEDING - no thanks

(normally I'd post a daft silly pic but this thread is designed for short n simple answers - very difficult for me to comply with btw)

 

[Esoterick]

if opening it up he may as well fit the right spring for the fps he wants.... they only £10 ish.

Yeah this is for a mate, I think he's resorted to firing a load of rounds through it as one chrono read 515 and another 500. Issue being the one reading 515 was on a game site lol.

 

[sp00n]

I don't think he's listening, look like he's hoping someone will spoon feed him.

I only feed myself

 

[proffrink]

Crane stock Carl is back!

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I need a stock for this gun http://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/vfc-umarex-hk416-aeg-airsoft-gun that fits these http://www.componentshop.co.uk/7-4v-2600mah-25c-continuous-discharge-cranestock-lipo-battery.html ANY HELP WOULD BE VERY HIGHLY APPRECIATED. (no i dont want to change batteries)

Try here its the place I always use for hard to find bits.

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=5a_0VcD2M-Kq8weI37PoBg&gws_rd=ssl

Hope this helps. ☺

 

[Lozart]

Crane stock won't catch on the holes on the buffer tube and I cant adjust it... What do I do? Here is the stock:http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft/asg-crane-stock-m4-m15-black.htm#.VfwugPlVhBd Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks!

Change the buffer tube or swap the pin from the original stock with the one in the ASG stock (if it will fit).

 

[Sitting Duck]

pin in old crane - held on with a tiny allen key underneath usually

and the hole on top to withdraw or hold the bolt/spring

swap over pin from old stock to new stock I think is what Lozart means

(if ya betteries now fit in that)

 

[Lozart]

How would I change the pin... I'm new.

pin in old crane - held on with a tiny allen key underneath usually

and the hole on top to withdraw or hold the bolt/spring

swap over pin from old stock to new stock I think is what Lozart means

(if ya betteries now fit in that)

What he said. If you honestly think that this is beyond your abilities, take it to a shop and ask them to do it for you.

 

[Sitting Duck]

Blimey - now you might need another stock tube

if you can't get the pin assembly out of that old stock

it has to have the same or similar mechanism - just covered over as part of stock's plastic crap

 

[proffrink]

You've already opened a new thread and now you're posting here again? Please have some patience - people do other things besides visit the forums.

 

[Trisnpod]

Hi, would anyone be able to say how much a 270fps pistol with hop up would hurt from a range of about 5-10m? Here is the pistol:https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/double-eagle-m39g-pistol-bb-gun-with-red-dot-scope.html
Just because I'm trying to persuade my brother to get an air soft gun with me, but he's worried it will hurt.

I tried to upload this in red, but I couldn't find the option for it

 

[Ian_Gere]

The answer to how much it will hurt is: it all depends on where you are hit, how much adrenalin you have in your system, and how much of a wimp you are. If you get hit in the teeth at that range, even by a low power gun like 270 FPS, it could knock one out, which will probably hurt quite a lot, even if you are well excited and it doesn't hurt so much at the time... but then again, a hit to a T-shirt covered chest under the same circumstances may barely register in the heat of the moment. The thing is, airsoft is an adventure sport/hobby, and truthfully if your brother is concerned about getting hurt by something which hundreds of people take part in every weekend (hence cannot actually be particularly unsafe or you'd have seen headlines about it), he's probably too much of a wimp.

Then again, you may consider it a good-brotherly thing to do to expand his horizons...

 

[Trisnpod]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I think my brother isn't just scared of getting injured, more of how much it will hurt when he gets shot. I've heard it's like a pinch, is that right? Does it hurt as much as paintball?

He says he's scared of guns, but he loves outdoor laser tag and nerf guns. I think if I can convince him that it's less painful than paintball he'll go along with it.
I just worked out how to get red font; I'm on an iPad so I had to go off the mobile version of this forum.

 

[Ian_Gere]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I think my brother isn't just scared of getting injured, more of how much it will hurt when he gets shot. I've heard it's like a pinch, is that right? Does it hurt as much as paintball?

He says he's scared of guns, but he loves outdoor laser tag and nerf guns. I think if I can convince him that it's less painful than paintball he'll go along with it.
I just worked out how to get red font; I'm on an iPad so I had to go off the mobile version of this forum.

On average I'd say yeah, less than a paintball hit, but a pinch? Dunno - it depends how hard you pinch, or where on the body, assuming you mean grabbing a bit of skin between thumb and forefinger (rather than, say, getting a bit of your finger caught in a piece of machinery so it causes a blood blister)... but it's not really equivalent anyway, because I've only ever been pinched by surprise.

I mean, even while being tickled, so the physical contact isn't a surprise, the sudden change of tactics makes the pain unexpected and thus worse. When you're skirmishing your adrenalin is amped up, so even hits which break the skin don't bother you anywhere near as much as they would if, say, you sneaked into your brother's room and shot him in the bare arse after he'd just emerged from the shower, for instance (which action we, as a responsible forum, would never condone nor encourage since neither he, nor possibly you, would be likely to be wearing eye protection). However if you did and could somehow convince the hapless yoot to indeed wear eyepro into the shower, the warm, freshly scrubbed, buttock would very likely sting more from a 0.2g BB @270FPS from 5m than it would from an average non-bruising pinch. Even in the middle of a skirmish, a similar hit to ungloved fingers would sting enough to make most people yelp and/or swear, but onto a sleeved arm, you'd be far more bothered by the in-game consequences of being hit (the walk of shame or yelling for a medic) than the momentary pain.

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...this hit was from a 0.2g BB @365-70FPS from 6-7m​

It resulted from a BB getting between a loose lower face mask bouncing away from my goggles opening and closing a gap as I ran. It did sting, but not much - less than a pinch, but it didn't half shit me up because it was so close to my eye and I could feel the wet blood running down my face.

The pic was taken in the safe zone around 15mins later, after i had wiped my face with tissues and water in the field, so it doesn't really demonstrate how much it bled. I mean at worst there were multiple points where it was dripping from my beard. After the initial WTF moment had passed however, the blood itself was the only issue preventing me from just regen-ing (a marshal didn't want me carrying on until the bleeding was under control) and getting straight back into the assault on the fort, which had been stalling a bit until a handful of us went in on a banzai mission which proved enough to turn the tide, so my team were then hitting the enemy so fast that it sounded like the only thing slowing them was having to wait for dead-men-walking to get down the 2 single file staircases to the upper level, so the last few die-hards could be rooted out... all of which i mention for context, ie my adrenalin was pumping good stylee! I literally barely felt any pain even though the hit pretty much destroyed the dermis layer so I have a permanent BB sized crater scar...

BTW, this is not me giving it the Billy Big Bollox - anyone who'se been into airsoft for a while will tell you the same: we've all got our tales of the real zingers that either left permanent scars but didn't hurt, or contrarily left no glory but nigh on crippled us at the time

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I think my brother isn't just scared of getting injured, more of how much it will hurt when he gets shot. I've heard it's like a pinch, is that right? Does it hurt as much as paintball?

He says he's scared of guns, but he loves outdoor laser tag and nerf guns. I think if I can convince him that it's less painful than paintball he'll go along with it.

I just worked out how to get red font; I'm on an iPad so I had to go off the mobile version of this forum.

As Ian said depends where you get hit. They can hit hard sometimes I have had my finger fractured.

 

[Ian_Gere]

As Ian said depends where you get hit. They can hit hard sometimes I have had my finger fractured.

Yeah, I got a Desert Eagle shot into my left thumb joint from about 1m - my thumb was pretty much paralysed by pain for several days... and that hit was through gloves made from Pyrohide and Kevlar ffs! Later in the day someone got ripped up by hits which some people found suspiciously excessive so all guns were re-chronoed immediately - the culprit was found: I forget the exact deets but it was over 400FPS on full-auto (the lad was a noob borrowing a mate's gun for a change after lunch / genuine mistake / no malice aforethought / no ban), but this proved that the Deagle was site legal, so for that place 350FPS or below with 0.2's...

 

[Trisnpod]

Ok, I've found a few more guns around 180fps, one of which claims a 40m range. My brother seems happier about getting a lower powered gun like these. How much would something like this hurt from about 10-15m, and is the 40m range realistic? Here is that gun: https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/galaxy-g3a-full-metal-pistol-with-silencer-in-blue.html

And if your interested here are the other guns I'm thinking about:https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/galaxy-g3-ppk-replica-full-metal-pistol-bb-gun-in-orange.html
https://www.justbbguns.co.uk/product/518/2-TONE-BB-PISTOLS/342/SPRING-PISTOLS/3334/TAURUS-PT111-SPRING-BB-PISTOL

 

[Sitting Duck]

270fps is probably with lighter 0.12's

a bit mickey mouse but for safety reasons you should be 18

AND ALWAYS WEAR DECENT EYE PROTECTION !!!!

I mean it - don't take chances even messing about back garden plinking !!!

seriously - you can still lose a f*cking eye even messing about - a lot more dangerous than messing with Nerf stuff

the weight or mass of the bb 0.12 0.20 0.25 etc... determines the "ouch" factor at xxx fps

0.12's @270fps is less ouch than a .25@270fps

But honestly - ensure that a 18+ purchases it and above all else don't be a dick with it

don't take chances good eyepro is a must !!!!! - even if you skirmish in the buff -wear eyepro

(even with less powerful air guns/toys)

play safe - please

ouch factor - depends where you get shot - getting shot in the back with little meat/fat stings more than in the chest/ar$e

close up hurts more than a distance coz bb loses energy/speed/fps blah blah blah

get a full face mask - saves eye and teeth/good looks (too late for ugly me)

baggy clothes help absorb the ouch/sting - just play safe on ya eyes/face

PS - liked Ian's pic not coz I'm a sicko but a very vivid reminder for us all to take safety seriously

(yeah I have a weird sense of humour but holy f*ck/ouch)

 

[Trisnpod]

Yeah I would definitely wear full face mask.

So is the pain caused down to the size of the BB rather than the fps? If so, how much would it hurt to use .12 bbs with the 270fps pistol wearing baggy clothes, face mask and from about 10-15m range?

 

[Zak Da Mack]

Yeah I would definitely wear full face mask.

So is the pain caused down to the size of the BB rather than the fps? If so, how much would it hurt to use .12 bbs with the 270fps pistol wearing baggy clothes, face mask and from about 10-15m range?

The pain is more down to the Joule (energy) which is travelling behind the BB and where you get hit. The heavier the BB is and the higher it's FPS. The more kinetic energy it will have. Also, getting shot somewhere sensitive like fingers or your gonads will hurt a lot more than getting shot in the chest.