Is the cyma cm 515 that bad?

[reetabeeta]

Me and some friends are looking to get some airsoft guns really just to mess around with but not sure what to get. The CYMA CM515 seems like an obvious choice but a lot of people say its not that good, is it fine just to shoot around in the house and with friends?

 

[Colin Allen]

It is ok for that, but it is barely skirmishable. However, you would be better off with a basic Specna or Double Bell rifle (other brands are available).

However, be aware that you cannot buy a black or tan one unless you have a defence, such as UKARA membership; also make sure that you and anyone else in the house has good quality eyepro on.

Do not, under any circumstances, do anything with an airsoft gun where members of the public might see it; that might get you a visit from chaps with real guns.

 

[ButcherBill]

Me and some friends are looking to get some airsoft guns really just to mess around with

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This is how people lose an eye, find an airsoft site close by & attend a few games, you can rent equipment and you'll be able to decide if you want to spend cash on a brightly coloured 'gun'. Without a UKARA defence/registration you'll only be able to buy a two tone rif, this is an airsoft Realistic Imitation Firearm painted an unrealistic colour.

 

[EDcase]

Welcome

If you can find a CYMA CM515 for under £100 then go for it but as said above, you can get a better one for not much more money. (Search the forum for 'first gun recommendation')
You'll have to buy a coloured version 'Imitation Firearm' (IF) but if you go to a site and play 3 games you can get registered with UKARA and be able to buy a 'Realistic Imitation Firearm' (RIF)

Also as said above, wear eye protection as accidents happen and can lead to a lifetime of regret.
Don't play on public land and don't let anyone see your toys (even in your house) Any calls to Police get taken very seriously and even legal ownership can result in confiscation.

 

[Cannonfodder]

In my experience the cyma 500 range have pretty good internal parts but the plastic bodies are shit and break very easily. For not much more you can get something far better.

just to mess around with

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What do you mean by mees around with? If you're just putting holes in paper targets then still get eye protection as bbs can easily ricochet and take out an eye. If you're thinking of taking them to your local woodland/abandoned building then don't bother. Simply put you will get an ARU called out and they don't fuck about.

It may look like people are very defensive when it comes to people misusing airsoft guns but we came very close to them being banned and only a lot of hard work went in to stopping that from happening.

 

[reetabeeta]

It is ok for that, but it is barely skirmishable. However, you would be better off with a basic Specna or Double Bell rifle (other brands are available).

However, be aware that you cannot buy a black or tan one unless you have a defence, such as UKARA membership; also make sure that you and anyone else in the house has good quality eyepro on.

Do not, under any circumstances, do anything with an airsoft gun where members of the public might see it; that might get you a visit from chaps with real guns.

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What about Delta armoury? Specifically the CO4?

 

[reetabeeta]

In my experience the cyma 500 range have pretty good internal parts but the plastic bodies are shit and break very easily. For not much more you can get something far better.


What do you mean by mees around with? If you're just putting holes in paper targets then still get eye protection as bbs can easily ricochet and take out an eye. If you're thinking of taking them to your local woodland/abandoned building then don't bother. Simply put you will get an ARU called out and they don't fuck about.

It may look like people are very defensive when it comes to people misusing airsoft guns but we came very close to them being banned and only a lot of hard work went in to stopping that from happening.

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We all own eye protection all ready, we used them for paintball a few weeks ago.

 

[Colin Allen]

What about Delta armoury? Specifically the CO4?

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No idea; I have never seen one. However, from the specs it looks like it might be somewhat better.

 

[Cannonfodder]

What about Delta armoury? Specifically the CO4?

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Never owned one myself but I did get a look and feel of one last Sunday (not sure what model though). They seem pretty solid to me

 

[Tackle]

Me and some friends are looking to get some airsoft guns really just to mess around with.

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is it fine just to shoot around in the house and with friends?

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Both of those sentences, JUST FUCKING NO
If you want to piss around in someone's house, just get nerf guns ffs, they've enough range for indoors, & still wear eye protection.
But dear god, if you want airsoft kit then attend a proper site & do it legally, none of us here want to be tarred with the same brush as you & your mates when an eye is lost or an arv storms your front door, we've all got too much time & money invested in this hobby to have it fucked up by non airsofters.

 

[Galvatron]

Tackle's said all that needs to be said about messing around and jeopardising the hobby, especially when you have no skin in the game and won't be affected unless the CPS decides to escalate your "messing about".

As you've played paintball recently, have you not considered booking a skirmish at a local airsoft site that offers rental packages where you can play in a safer, more controlled environment? You don't need to go crazy with spending. You already have eye protection. Gloves and decent footwear are the only investments you'd really need to make. Plate carriers/chest rigs can be worried about later if you decide to take it more seriously.

While you are expected to look after your rental gun, you don't have to worry about long term maintenance, nor do you have to worry about reselling a two-tone gun. I'll put money on you getting bored of it but reselling a two-tone is a pain in the arse most of the time where you'll get pennies on your pound as most people with a defence won't buy them, especially when they're priced onpar with a RIF. Respraying them won't be an option either because it's illegal without a defence and in terms of resale value, putting lipstick on a pig still leaves you with a pig.

Some replies in this thread may be stern and it's deliberate for the reasons Tackle gave. You'll actually find airsofters to usually be a friendly and welcoming bunch with some really strong communities. At the same time, we are unapologetically protective of the freedom we have with playing and enjoying the hobby by taking part safely and not by "messing around".

 

[Austeyr]

There really needs to be a study to understand the correlation between new “airsofters” and diminishing intellect…

 

[Colin Allen]

There really needs to be a study to understand the correlation between new “airsofters” and diminishing intellect…

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It would be a long way outside my field, the research question would need to be refined somewhat drastically, and I am not sure where or how I could get it funded, but it might be interesting. I am not sure how I would work hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen ICEs or electric propulsion systems for the maritime industries into it though.

Perhaps I could suggest it to someone in Human Sciences as the basis of a PhD instead.

 

[Tackle]

I think the problem is 'kin gen Z's, us old farts just get on with it while applying a liberal dose of common sense, something the Z's are usually lacking.

 

[Colin Allen]

I think the problem is 'kin gen Z's, us old farts just get on with it while applying a liberal dose of common sense, something the Z's are usually lacking.View attachment 29465

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Thankfully, my lads are exceptions to that.

Having said that, I am not entirely sure about my eldest:

 

[The_Lord_Poncho]

As a counterpoint, I've been volunteering with teenagers for the last 30 years. The challenges I throw in their way on a weekly basis require varying degrees of grit, teamwork, initiative, and yes, common sense to overcome. Of course, some of them are lacking in some of those qualities, a few of them in many! But certainly not all of them. And I can genuinely say, in those 30 years I haven’t seen a trend one way or the other, the mix of qualities has been the same. The immovable trend however is towards us all becoming grumpy old men with rose tinted spectacles, reminiscing misty eyed about how people were different "in my youth"

 

[Colin Allen]

Rose tinted spectacles?

 

[Cannonfodder]

The immovable trend however is towards us all becoming grumpy old men with rose tinted spectacles, reminiscing misty eyed about how people were different "in my youth"

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This. Literally every generation thinks that they know better than the previous one and are going to change the world for the better only to end up moaning about the same things.

To me the whole gen x, millennial divides are a load of bollocks. The number of years in each generation changes to shoehorn it around world events but still doesn't fit. Also I was born in 1980 so am I supposed to have mote in common with someone 15 years older than me compared to someone 1 year younger?

What makes me laugh though are all the social media idiots who go on about how younger generations are so emotionally weak. If they're that secure themselves why do they have to keep moaning about it?