Any Problems you guys experience?

[Michael K]

Hey guys,

I am doing a project for school and I am trying to “Design a physical solution that overcomes a specific problem for a group of users”

My group of users is you guys and I want to find out what specific problems you guys experience for airsofting. It can be anything like packing for scrims, problems while playing, etc...

I will post the result of the design after

 

[EDcase]

I'd say the biggest problem we have is non hit taking.

If you can solve it you'll be a millionaire ?

I've wondered about combining airsoft with low power laser/IR hit detection like military use but because the trajectory of BB's is so crap they wouldn't correlate.

 

[Michael K]

I'd say the biggest problem we have is non hit taking.

If you can solve it you'll be a millionaire ?

I've wondered about combining airsoft with low power laser/IR hit detection like military use but because the trajectory of BB's is so crap they wouldn't correlate.

I can definitely agree with you on that one  It happens in my site sometimes because the try-out people wear full body suits 

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

Something that comes to mind is a gucci lense shield for optics - maybe one that you could design to clip onto the front of an EoTech or similar?

 

[Michael K]

Something that comes to mind is a gucci lense shield for optics - maybe one that you could design to clip onto the front of an EoTech or similar?

Like Gucci or good ?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

there are a lot of problems with different aspects of airsoft, although if you're talking about a school project i suspect you probably don't want to tackle most of them.

one that might be a good idea would be to perhaps look at trying to make an energy only based chronograph, something that doesn't rely on knowing what bb weight is being used that just reports the energy of the shot fired. the best method for chronographing in airsoft is a source of great debate in terms of the best method to do it (ie eliminating liars versus eliminating joule creep)

 

[Lozart]

one that might be a good idea would be to perhaps look at trying to make an energy only based chronograph, something that doesn't rely on knowing what bb weight is being used that just reports the energy of the shot fired. the best method for chronographing in airsoft is a source of great debate in terms of the best method to do it (ie eliminating liars versus eliminating joule creep)

The problem there is that kinetic energy is a function of mass so you need to know the BB weight to get to it. There is no surefire way to eliminate cheats and liars without the site issuing all the BBs to be used!

 

[Adolf Hamster]

The problem there is that kinetic energy is a function of mass so you need to know the BB weight to get to it. There is no surefire way to eliminate cheats and liars without the site issuing all the BBs to be used!

Not really, after all the limit is in energy, if the detector registers energy theres no way round it.

 

[Lozart]

Not really, after all the limit is in energy, if the detector registers energy theres no way round it.

But that's the trick, Kinetic energy has to be calculated because you can't measure it directly. KE=mv2/2 where m=mass and v=velocity.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

But that's the trick, Kinetic energy has to be calculated because you can't measure it directly. KE=mv2/2 where m=mass and v=velocity.

I was thinking specifically of a ballistic pendulum type idea, for a non-captured system you're replacing the unknown mass of the bb with the known mass of the pendulum.

Of course how precise it would be i dont know, hence why it would make a good project.

 

[Lozart]

I was thinking specifically of a ballistic pendulum type idea, for a non-captured system you're replacing the unknown mass of the bb with the known mass of the pendulum.

Of course how precise it would be i dont know, hence why it would make a good project.

So measuring the amplitude and rate of the deflection of the pendulum? How would you account for losses like not striking the pendulum squarely or the heat produced in the impact?

 

[Steveocee]

I'd say the biggest problem we have is non hit taking.

If you can solve it you'll be a millionaire ?

Almost like the little balls we fire should be filled with some kind of marking substance and on impact they explode leaving said filling all over the person who was shot? Does that sound marginally familiar to you yet its a word non of us dare speak? ?

@Michael K I'm guessing this project is something really bottom end and something from a D&T class? Maybe make a tabletop/foldable RIF holder? We all dislike sharing table space with others and I hate lying my RIF on it's side with a passion.

Also doubles as a display holder. Make it fold so it can be transported and you'll succeed.

 

[EDcase]

Almost like the little balls we fire should be filled with some kind of marking substance and on impact they explode leaving said filling all over the person who was shot? Does that sound marginally familiar to you yet it a word non of us dare speak? ?

OMG he's cracked it!!!!!!!!!!

So why aren't we using that...? ?

As far as measuring energy...

What about firing at a piezoelectric  sensor?

 

[Michael K]

Almost like the little balls we fire should be filled with some kind of marking substance and on impact they explode leaving said filling all over the person who was shot? Does that sound marginally familiar to you yet its a word non of us dare speak? ?

@Michael K I'm guessing this project is something really bottom end and something from a D&T class? Maybe make a tabletop/foldable RIF holder? We all dislike sharing table space with others and I hate lying my RIF on it's side with a passion.

Also doubles as a display holder. Make it fold so it can be transported and you'll succeed.

Yeah I think this might be the go to option not going to lie. But After I finish this project, I will start designing other ones the people have suggested. I really thank everyone foe helping me out. 

(Not a DT project but a design task for my uni :O)

OMG he's cracked it!!!!!!!!!!

So why aren't we using that...? ?

Isnt that basically paintball xD

 

[EDcase]

Isnt that basically paintball xD

Hehehe yep

Though we like our pew pews to look more realistic and the ammo to cost a lot less.

But would still be good to have a hit confirmation somehow

 

[Michael K]

Hehehe yep

Though we like our pew pews to look more realistic and the ammo to cost a lot less.

But would still be good to have a hit confirmation somehow

I think like a sensor on your clothing with you can attach might be good

something which hits you at a velocity of 200fps minimum could trigger a red light which tells you that you are out?

 

[EDcase]

I think like a sensor on your clothing with you can attach might be good

something which hits you at a velocity of 200fps minimum could trigger a red light which tells you that you are out?

Yes, an acoustic sensor has been experimented with but not successful.

The BB leaves the barrel at high speed but by the time it gets to the target its usually lost a lot of energy so the hit could be tiny.

 

[Michael K]

Yes, an acoustic sensor has been experimented with but not successful.

The BB leaves the barrel at high speed but by the time it gets to the target its usually lost a lot of energy so the hit could be tiny.

I reckon it might be easier if the person had a lie detector on themselves and whenever they ddon't call hit in 3-5 seconds they get zapped ?

 

[Cromulon1994]

You need to develop a grip, that can detect if the user is a bellend. 

For regular people, it should work normally. 

For anyone thinking bellendy thoughts, it should simultaneously divert the battery power through capacitors and deliver a jolt to the user while a hidden speaker tells the would be bellend to sort their life out. 

Then you need it to be on every gun like a safety or a cal 6mm marking. 

Hey presto, loadsa money and eliminating bellends from the hobby. 

 

[Michael K]

You need to develop a grip, that can detect if the user is a bellend. 

For regular people, it should work normally. 

For anyone thinking bellendy thoughts, it should simultaneously divert the battery power through capacitors and deliver a jolt to the user while a hidden speaker tells the would be bellend to sort their life out. 

Then you need it to be on every gun like a safety or a cal 6mm marking. 

Hey presto, loadsa money and eliminating bellends from the hobby. 

??? That would be pretty insane to be honest and it aint a bad idea but what if you get hit by ricochets and the next thing you know your AEG is calling you a bellend