DanielJRoper - AVOID!!

[New2Airsoft]

Overall rating (1 - 10): 0

Would you deal with the trader again (Yes / No): ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Any other comments:

• Bought a M59 sniper (described as ‘nearly new’) from Mr Roper, in response to an ad placed on this forum. My first foray into buying on this site. Post-transaction I kinda feel like he saw me coming!
  
  Where do I start? A week after payment, still no M59 so I had to chase Mr Roper to find out what was going on. This did not bode well.
  
  Eventually the M59 did actually arrive, poorly packed (no internal padding or protection at all so the disassembled parts were free to rattle around in the box). But it got here.
  
  On closer inspection of what I’d received I found the safety catch button was snapped off. So, with the weapon assembled, no way to operate the safety. This wasn't mentioned in the ad, nor shown in the pics. Despite Mr Roper saying he'd used the weapon himself, he claimed to be unaware of this damage. Possible - but kinda odd. According to him this was a £5 'easy fix' even though, apparently, he’d never even noticed the damage. His other suggestion was just to have the bolt open all the time – so I could see that it was safe. Not terribly practical!
  
  The advert said the weapon came with sling and alan keys included. They weren't.
  
  As part of the deal Mr Roper said he'd include 2000 competition BBs. Needless to say - he didn't.
  
  The advert said the Plastikote spray applied to the weapon would easily peel off. Wow; it REALLY didn't!!
  
  On contacting Mr Roper to complain, he said he would post me the missing parts I’d paid for, plus some extra BBs for the trouble and make a small refund by way of apology.
  
  Well, guess what? None of this stuff ever arrived and no refund was forthcoming.
  
  So – reluctantly, since it’s time-consuming and a pain – I had to file a dispute via Paypal, saying I'd accept a partial refund (boy was I glad I didn’t send payment as a ‘friends and family’ gift, as Mr Roper had initially requested!)
  
  That seemed to spur him into some action at least. He got in touch to say he'd send the missing parts, honest he would. And he slightly increased his refund offer.
  
  But *sigh* - you guessed it - nothing happened.
  
  So I escalated the case and told Mr Roper to keep the missing bits as the time for making good on his failure (assuming he’d ever really intended to do that at all, anyway) had long since passed. Again, within the Paypal case, I gave him the opportunity to agree to a partial refund in compromise; nothing happened. And only after I chased him did he see fit to respond to the case at all, rather than just let it drag out.
  
  I had to return Mr Roper's broken M59 to him via a tracked service, on my dollar, to try to get my money back. But don’t forget – I gave him multiple opportunities to meet me half way by agreeing a partial refund. Despite expressing his willingness to take this route, when push came to shove he didn’t – thereby running the dispute further than necessary and ensuring I had to wait longer to try to reach a settlement. Plus I had the added hassle of packing and posting his crappy M59. Does that sound like ‘honest-broker’ behaviour, to you?!
  
  But then ParcelForce screwed up the delivery tracking, so Paypal couldn’t trace delivery and Mr Roper got his M59 back AND got to keep my money! Leaving me to try to pursue a lost item case through ParcelForce.
  
  Time taken from initial payment to date (am still waiting to receive any refund) – three months, and counting! But Mr Roper, had he been minded, could have settled this in two weeks, or less.
  
  Moral of the story, if there is one - I'd very strongly advise AGAINST buying from Mr Roper. Think about how he conducted himself in this transaction and whether you’d treat someone that way or expect to receive that kinda treatment.
  
  Deeply disappointed and not at all impressed. Absolutely NOT the way to behave towards people on a forum such as this. And not in the spirit of this hobby, either, in my opinion.
  
  Shame on you, Daniel Roper; was this how you were brought up, buddy?!
  
  Anyway, I hope Mods will now also be aware of Mr Roper’s conduct for future reference.
  
  Must just add that, by contrast, the vast majority of people I have met and corresponded with on here have been straight, trustworthy, honest, friendly, supportive and decent (you know who you are - thanks).
  

 

[Gepard]

That's quite a tale. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. I think this needs a mod to look into. Have you reported his profile yet? 

But there's two sides to every story. Care to defend yourself @DanielJRoper?

 

[L3wisD]

But there's two sides to every story. Care to defend yourself @DanielJRoper?

Well, looks like your summoning worked as his profile says:

• 
  LAST VISITED
  1 hour ago
  
  

Really grinds me down this sort of thing. 

The honesty in airsoft really does extend past the actual gameplay. We're all bananas from the same bunch, so it's really aggravating to hear people treat fellow airsofters like this. 

Sorry he's done you over @New2Airsoft, hopefully @proffrink and @Jedi_Master can look into whether the evidence against Daniel warrants a ban?

 

[Gepard]

Well, looks like your summoning worked as his profile says:

• 
  LAST VISITED
  1 hour ago
  
  

Really grinds me down this sort of thing. 

The honesty in airsoft really does extend past the actual gameplay. We're all bananas from the same bunch, so it's really aggravating to hear people treat fellow airsofters like this. 

Sorry he's done you over @New2Airsoft, hopefully @proffrink and @Jedi_Master can look into whether the evidence against Daniel warrants a ban?

Yeah, I saw him reading the topic earlier. As he's yet to comment I'm going to assume he's not interested in having his side of the story known. I reckon a ban is justified. 

 

[New2Airsoft]

Would be delighted to hear Mr Roper 'defend' himself as he's not contacted me for, literally, months and now has in his possession both his crappy broken M59 AND my money!!

Should also add that this was not bought for my use but for my young son who wants to get into airsofting, to use in our garden as a start point.

So not really me who's been let down here, but a 12 year old lad!

 

[Gepard]

Would be delighted to hear Mr Roper 'defend' himself as he's not contacted me for, literally, months and now has in his possession both his crappy broken M59 AND my money!!

If events played out exactly as you described then he's a piece of shit and a taint on this community. 

 

[New2Airsoft]

I have been very careful to report only the facts here. No lies, no embellishments.

 

[MisterG]

If you google his name this comes up as the 3rd link.

 

[Marc.RG1]

Wow that's shocking behaviour, sorry to hear this mate, I hope you end up getting your money back one way or another.. 

If the guy can't even be bothered to reply to this, he should definitely be banned from making sells on the forum that's for sure.. 

ATB Marc 

 

[L3wisD]

If you don't get your money back, give it a few weeks and order him one of these...  :lol:

https://www.glitterretribution.co.uk/spring-loaded-glitter-canon

Could you imagine cleaning that up  :lol:

 

[Gepard]

If you don't get your money back, give it a few weeks and order him one of these...  :lol:

https://www.glitterretribution.co.uk/spring-loaded-glitter-canon

Could you imagine cleaning that up  :lol:

As he'll no doubt read this thread he'll know what to look for. 

We'll have to be creative..  h34r:

 

[Prisce]

There is a “different” present you can send him. I has the details if you require them. More messy, and less fun I’ll admit, but will get the message across

 

[L3wisD]

There is a “different” present you can send him. I has the details if you require them. More messy, and less fun I’ll admit, but will get the message across

?

 

[New2Airsoft]

Thanks for the kind words, all.

Despite what Mr Roper may think, this isn't over yet.

Not at all surprised that he lacks the cojones to come on here and say anything. Hard to defend the indefensible though.

 

[proffrink]

Sorry for bumping, but one of you reported the thread and we actually had to take a look at how rulings on stuff like this will be made in the future (from a moderation perspective). @Jedi_Master is in charge of moderation so message him or I for clarification.

In short: We cannot mediate (or indeed moderate) transactions effectively on here and so it should not be expected that a moderator will take steps to resolve a dispute when it comes to classified sales. Without granting them access to your personal messages (something we'll never do), you disclosing PayPal information, providing disclosure of bank statements, tracking codes, emails etc. (you get the point) it won't be possible for a moderator to actually make a ruling one way or the other on who's in the right.

However, we can offer one, enforceable rule: Communication.

The new classifieds rules will stipulate that you're required to attempt to communicate with the other party to resolve an issue. Going silent - as has happened here - will be treated as an admission of guilt and could see action taken against your account. Checking communication (in the case that one party claims the other has gone quiet immediately) will either include:

• Adding a moderator to a new PM chain to show that discourse is taking place
  
• Creating a hidden topic/subforum temporarily for two parties to communicate in (that only moderators and the two parties can access)
  

This won't guarantee a happy resolution to any dispute, but we will allow moderator discretion as to whether an impasse has been reached (i.e. turns into a 'he said she said') or if one party is simply refusing all communication. In the case of no communication, warnings (and more likely just bans) can be issued. If it's just a case of no amicable solution on the horizon then the moderator can do nothing more (again, for fear of ruling incorrectly with half the information). Again the aim here is to stop those who cut and run (these make up the vast majority of these dispute cases).

As this system can be open to abuse by moderators (given that it's 'behind closed doors'), every ban will be reviewed by @Jedi_Master before it happens and every ban made under this system will be disclosed publicly in an attempt to make things more transparent. This is also to help ensure that moderators aren't ruling on the content of the PMs themselves (again the he said she said aspect) but rather whether one party is just being ignored immediately by someone who's done a runner (and should therefore likely be banned).

With that said, @New2Airsoft if you'd like to drop @Jedi_Master a PM about this then he can initiate this with @DanielJRoper and see if we cannot get the two of you chatting again. If not then, well, at least it might be harder for him to do this to someone else. Unfortunately it sounds as though in this case that DanielJ didn't go silent immediately so there might not be much to discuss.

 

[Robert James]

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[Gepard]

Was there any further communication between you two? I see his last login was ~10hrs ago and no public replies. 

 

[New2Airsoft]

He's got his (broken) weapon back and he's got my money too - what possible motivation could he have to either respond publicly or get back in touch with me (neither of which he has done, obviously)?!

I'll be pursuing him through small claims in due course - am a firm believer in 'he who laughs last...'.

@proffrink - I appreciate what you're saying but, to be brutally honest, when someone has done you like Mr Roper has done me, being 'put back in touch' is rather pointless and toothless.

There is really nothing more to say. I stand by - and can prove (and, as I say, will be doing so in court in due course) - every single thing I have posted in my 'review' of Mr Roper.

If you deal with him, then more fool you - you've been more than amply warned!  

 

[proffrink]

Fair enough - it did seem as though he was communicating initially, but if you do want to get him banned then we can set up a monitored PM and - if he doesn't respond within a timely manor - we'll make sure he can't do this to anyone else on here at least. I completely understand if you don't want to go to that faff though. We're hoping this will simply be used as a tool to effectively and fairly ban those who're obviously scamming and just make it more time consuming for those who're scamming whilst still communicating. It's unfortunate that that's the best we can do without the risk of banning the wrong person, and of course it's not like we can get that money back anyway.

Hopefully you can get that money back through the courts.

 

[New2Airsoft]

Understood.

I have no wish (nor any particular need) to communicate with Mr Roper through any channels but official ones, going forward.

He'll be hearing from me in due course.

Silly man - could have settled this really simply; but I suppose some folk can only learn their lessons the hard way...