Baz JJ
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Did the Okto Eight Milsim Op Clean Sweep at the weekend.
Man, it was cold and muddy.
I've heard hardcore milsimmers preach about the games like the CAG ones where they trek 7Km in full kit across Otterburn in blizzards and attack an objective.
The Okto one is supposed to be a softer option with the fighting ending at 1700 each day so people can socialise, eat, get warm etc.
However, this weekend made me realise the real difference between skirmish players and milsimmers who just happen to use airsoft weapons.
The weather hovered around zero all weekend, we had deep mud and it snowed every day.
Players were camping, many from Friday to Sunday evening.
Now the Okto game is not aimed at Seal Team 6 wannabes. Instead, its a personally challenging game where people choose to be in teams to overcome tactical objectives whilst fighting with airsoft weapons, against a continuing and evolving dynamic movie-style storyline.
What I saw was a polarisation where skirmishers who were used to day games struggled with suitable kit to combat the weather, struggled with comprehending rules, didnt make any preparation and got all antsy when things went against them, leaving before the game was finished on Sunday and letting their team mates struggle against a better prepared force.
On the other hand, the superior force, who ironically werent special forces wannabes in gucci kit as is often portrayed in milsim circles, were prepared for the weather, were organised in sub-units with slick drills and absorbed the intel, using it to their advantage.
They really did demonstrate what you can do with teamwork and good effective communication and their OPFOR had their arses handed to them on the Sunday.
There was an APC which was defending the Titanium Mine. The opposing team were trying to kill the APC by throwing grenades through one of its open gun ports, but the crew inside werent dying. I was acting as impartial observer and they complained to me. I asked them to try it again. The guy dodged the machine gun fire to get up alongside the APC in its blind zone and threw another grenade. I couldnt believe what I saw. The lad inside who I felt had more of a skirmishing attitude, jumped out of the rear hatch when the grenade came in, waited outside at the back for it to explode, then jumped back in to live another day and carry on. He really couldnt see my point when I explained that apart from being unfair, this was a highly improbable action had it been a real APC. Im sure its possible in one of the video games he plays..
I hasten to add that the game only accepts players 18 or over, so he wasnt a child.
Luckily, this is a minority occurence.
Despite that, it was a really good weekend and everybody seemed to leave having learned a lot of stuff about themselves. It might be that milsim isnt for them, but I suspect even the ones that excelled were questioning some of their kit choices.View attachment 22041
Man, it was cold and muddy.
I've heard hardcore milsimmers preach about the games like the CAG ones where they trek 7Km in full kit across Otterburn in blizzards and attack an objective.
The Okto one is supposed to be a softer option with the fighting ending at 1700 each day so people can socialise, eat, get warm etc.
However, this weekend made me realise the real difference between skirmish players and milsimmers who just happen to use airsoft weapons.
The weather hovered around zero all weekend, we had deep mud and it snowed every day.
Players were camping, many from Friday to Sunday evening.
Now the Okto game is not aimed at Seal Team 6 wannabes. Instead, its a personally challenging game where people choose to be in teams to overcome tactical objectives whilst fighting with airsoft weapons, against a continuing and evolving dynamic movie-style storyline.
What I saw was a polarisation where skirmishers who were used to day games struggled with suitable kit to combat the weather, struggled with comprehending rules, didnt make any preparation and got all antsy when things went against them, leaving before the game was finished on Sunday and letting their team mates struggle against a better prepared force.
On the other hand, the superior force, who ironically werent special forces wannabes in gucci kit as is often portrayed in milsim circles, were prepared for the weather, were organised in sub-units with slick drills and absorbed the intel, using it to their advantage.
They really did demonstrate what you can do with teamwork and good effective communication and their OPFOR had their arses handed to them on the Sunday.
There was an APC which was defending the Titanium Mine. The opposing team were trying to kill the APC by throwing grenades through one of its open gun ports, but the crew inside werent dying. I was acting as impartial observer and they complained to me. I asked them to try it again. The guy dodged the machine gun fire to get up alongside the APC in its blind zone and threw another grenade. I couldnt believe what I saw. The lad inside who I felt had more of a skirmishing attitude, jumped out of the rear hatch when the grenade came in, waited outside at the back for it to explode, then jumped back in to live another day and carry on. He really couldnt see my point when I explained that apart from being unfair, this was a highly improbable action had it been a real APC. Im sure its possible in one of the video games he plays..
I hasten to add that the game only accepts players 18 or over, so he wasnt a child.
Luckily, this is a minority occurence.
Despite that, it was a really good weekend and everybody seemed to leave having learned a lot of stuff about themselves. It might be that milsim isnt for them, but I suspect even the ones that excelled were questioning some of their kit choices.View attachment 22041
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