Why do airsoft shops over charge for shipping?

[kev.k]

A site membership is more than enough to purchase a gun from a good retailer.

I don't see why it would put people off? If you are getting into a hobby that makes use of extremely realistic looking guns, some regulations are the least you can expect.

If you assumed you can just get a realistic looking gun then it's not the system at fault. People wanting to protect themselves in a transaction for a rif is natural, I don't see the issue in that- no matter how annoying it can be.

Click to shrink...

I think the system is stupid. You should just be able to buy one.
If they are such a threat to the public, playing a game with them 3 times in 2 months shouldn't be a defence to owning one, they should be banned. The fact is, they are not a real threat to the public, unlike perfectly legal and lethal cross bows.

If people were able to buy them without having to play 3 times in 2 months ( especially for people who have to travel miles to a site), more people would buy, the sport would grow, more sites would start up and then big professional retailers would take an interest. This would benefit everyone and bring prices down.

It's easier for criminals to get hold of a real gun than it is a airsoft gun. I wouldn't take a scally seriously if he ran into a bank with a hk416 or a m4, I'd be more worried if he had an axe.

If someone was stupid enough to want one for that reason could easily buy a two tone and a tin of black paint.

The whole vcra, UKARA etc is pathetic. Just like the dangerous dogs act and all the other crap in this country. It's totally pointless and contridictory.

 

[M_P]

We aren't in America, the general public in the UK are much less accepting of firearms than in other countries, so it's hardly surprising.

We can't exactly change it so if people don't like the rules in place (which as far as I can see are far from unreasonable) then they aren't forced to play airsoft, they can always find another hobby or buy a two tone gun.

If you aren't scared of someone running into a bank with an assault rifle, fair enough, but you can fairly sure that there will also be a large number of people who will.

 

[remus]

have to disagree. i find ukara is a good system, makes people tink about buying a gun and just carrying it around. (if ya know what i mean. the airsoftguns are not the threat to the public. its that they look real. which again isnt a threat to the public, its that people have and can use them stupidly. ie take a pistol and walk into a shop, and use it to rob them. whats the chances of joe blogg behind the till knowing the difference between a rif and a firearm?this has happened and still does, but this system helps to reduce it. again police would they even know from a glance the difference? specially in a country such as mine where theres so many stories of them being attacked? making people proe to the retailer that they have a potentially genuine reason to have it (which yes can be abused, but ya cant argue that it dosent reduce it)

gotta say we shouldn't attack ukara, just the arses that did the stupid things that made it necessary...

 

[kev.k]

What chance is there that the assualt rifle is real? The fact that a criminal can by a two tone and paint it makes that argument pointless anyway.

If someone carries a rif in public with UKARA or not, they will still get hammered by the law. So the UKARA has no effect there either.

It's a pointless stupid system, that for some reason makes some people feel important when they have it? (That isn't aimed at anyone who has posted in this thread). We would all be better off without it.

 

[M_P]

Ukara isn't meant too...

UKARA is simply for retailers to protect themselves when selling rif's. UKARA was set up by and is run by retailers.

 

[remus]

actually quite high, you havent been to an area called lurgan, which the police actively avoid, lol. ukara makes people aware. ie i cant buy a realistic weapon, why, researches, reads convos, gets it expalined, etc. makes ya realise you would be stupid to carry it over to the friends house to shoot it in the backyard etc. i find people who do airsoft are more aware of doing such things, where as some of the people i know are like cool gun, shows it off to scare neighbours, wonder why they get arrested. but the stuff that would prevent them getting one, and as easy as it is to do they cant be assed and dont. as the saying goes, think of how stupid the average person is, then realise that half of people are actually stupider than that...

im all for making stupid people people think, best way to destroy them....

 

[kev.k]

Ukara isn't meant too...

UKARA is simply for retailers to protect themselves when selling rif's. UKARA was set up by and is run by retailers.

Click to shrink...

I know bud, I've not explained myself.

I think it should be legal to sell a rif and buy one, but illegal to carry it in public etc.

For me UKARA slows the growth of the sport and stops major retailers taking a interest.

It's crazy when you can go out and buy a crossbow.

actually quite high, you havent been to an area called lurgan, which the police actively avoid, lol. ukara makes people aware. ie i cant buy a realistic weapon, why, researches, reads convos, gets it expalined, etc. makes ya realise you would be stupid to carry it over to the friends house to shoot it in the backyard etc. i find people who do airsoft are more aware of doing such things, where as some of the people i know are like cool gun, shows it off to scare neighbours, wonder why they get arrested. but the stuff that would prevent them getting one, and as easy as it is to do they cant be assed and dont. as the saying goes, think of how stupid the average person is, then realise that half of people are actually stupider than that...

im all for making stupid people people think, best way to destroy them....

Click to shrink...

I think the VCRA does that mate, not UKARA.

I agree with you about the general public, most shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

[M_P]

But UKARA isn't a requirement, it's just one option. There are other ways of satisfying retailers that you have a good defence.

It's the people who believe UKARA is the law that are the problem.

 

[kev.k]

But UKARA isn't a requirement, it's just one option. There are other ways of satisfying retailers that you have a good defence.

It's the people who believe UKARA is the law that are the problem.

Click to shrink...

It's the law that's the problem. You should just be allowed to buy/sell a rif legally. The defence guidelines are sketchy at best.

It would be a lot simpler if it was illegal to carry a RIF in public, and to use one outside a insured site or private property away from a public highway. But legal to buy and sell if over 18.

It would be easier for retailers and airsofters, and wouldn't endanger the public in anyway.

 

[SheriffHD]

I will say, it is difficult to get a retailer to accept other forms of defense other than the UKARA, doing on their websites is a pain, and emailing them normally takes weeks before they get back to you.
when ever we have needed prop guns for any short film, we ended up having to go to the actual stores to buy them, which is fine, its just a major hassle when the closest retail unit is towns away.