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The outer barrel is as far back as it can go.

Doesn't move further.

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I guess this is the correct placement, if there is a way to make it go further back, let me know.

This is how both the gearbox and hop unit want to sit.

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Also there is a millimetre wide gap between the top cover (when closed) and the end of the receiver.

Either the barrel or the receiver are off spec.

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the outer barrel should sit as far back as it can go, but it might want to sit slightly forward of that position to get the hop bolted down, although in your case you seem to be getting the opposite problem.

generally i've found that they can be tight to get together, but that same tension keeps them solid once it's assembled. a qc issue is certainly plausible as with everything airsoft.

the gap between the top cover and the receiver is pretty normal, i wouldn't worry about that as long as it closes properly.

Either way it's busted.

I found a nice Cyma CM.045 for €160 on Taiwangun, I know it doesn't have wood furniture but it's not something I particularly care about.

Might buy that one, transfer my gearbox in it, maybe swap nozzles and then sell the E&L externals + cyma gearbox as spares for €100 or so.

it's sadly one of those fitment issues that's all but impossible to really diagnose over the internet, you may well be right that you've got an unlucky qc fail in the receiver.

Makes me wonder how the gun was assembled at the factory.

What thread pitch does the CM.045 have?

for the flash hider? i'd assume it's a case of the typical 14mm ccw thread with the adaptor to fit 74 pattern cw threads, e&l are noteworthy for actually casting the proper threads direct to the front sight block.

And I reckon 5ku parts will fit just fine, right?

Is that from the ak definition of "fit" or the m4 definition?

Because the former states anything's possible with a hammer and duct tape

Okay, will a 5ku B11 fit without extensive modification?

i mean it might take a bit of filing, but that's just the ak life

Okay it's gonna be another disaster

Found dis.

The 5KU B11 is very loose at the end which meets the receiver on the Cyma if memory serves. I struggled to find any Zenitco (be it real or any of a number of repros) that fit the Cyma well and ultimately did the opposite of you and bought an E&L. Granted at this point I'd given up on the idea of doing it myself and sent it off to have a real B11u machined to sit properly in the E&L.

TLDR, don't bother fucking with AKs. There is nothing common spec wise across them so nothing ever fits properly without bodging.

I'm disappointed that I've had so many issues with the gun.

It literally hasn't left my room since July 19th 2021, when I had the mosfet overheating issue (caused by a dying motor) on its 4th overall game. Since then it all went downhill, the motor finally died, then I bought a warhead, warhead died, waited one month for the repair, then the gearbox casing fucked itself, bought a RA shell, now I found out about the receiver..

I like the looks, the wooden parts are fantastic, but I'd take a working gun over a beautiful one every day of the week, and in its current form, this gun is far from being in working order.

i forgot you'd swapped the shell for a retro arms, that could be why it's getting fitment issues?

Not really, dimensions are the same as the E&L shell.

Essentially it's why the E&L box died.

hmm, i'll admit there's only 1 aftermarket box i ever dealt with in an e&l shell and that was a fusion engine. from memory it needed wedged forward in the reciever although not by much.