Hard bb's

[Dredd]

Hey guys I am picking up a vfc Ashbury tomorrow and I have read online that you should use hard bb's with it because due to the feeding mechanism they can split, can anyone give me a link as to which ones to buy because I'm slightly confused because it says the heavier the bb's doesn't necessarily mean there harder.

thanks

 

[Rogerborg]

I have read online that you should use hard bb's with it

Shouldn't you be asking whomever made that assertion what they mean by hardness, and how it relates to brittleness?  I'd be minded to think that a more elastic plastic would be less likely to split.

 

[Wo1f]

Geoff’s BB’s are good. Lots of people use them in GBBR’s because they seem to take the beating well. I use those or the little tubs of heavy ASG BB’s. They’re both nice and consistent with no air bubbles inside 

 

[lemon191]

Are you sure they didn't mean heavy bbs ? As long as you buy decent quality you shouldn't have a issue with breakages. However some guns do feed/shoot better with a slightly heavier weight bb

 

[Marc.RG1]

Geoffs or the draft club bbs are my go to, and both are extremely hard.. 

Some heavy weight bbs such as mad bull can use metal shavings and this does make the bbs soft.. 

Geoffs and the draft club bbs only use solid condensed plastic no matter what what, best bbs on the market in my opinion.

ATB Marc 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Some heavy weight bbs such as mad bull can use metal shavings and this does make the bbs soft.. 

Isn't this just another safezone myth?

 

[jcheeseright]

Isn't this just another safezone myth?

100% 

 

[Marc.RG1]

Isn't this just another safezone myth?

No mate as some are magnetic, I have tested them I might have a picture somewhere or maybe even some bbs left I'll check later.. 

ATB Marc 

 

[Marc.RG1]

Here you go guys, i could not find my old pictures so just took some new ones. Here are the madbull 0.43 magnetic bbs with the metal shavings..

ATB, Marc..

 

[Marc.RG1]

Isn't this just another safezone myth?

100% 

 see my last post guys..

ATB, Marc,,

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

 see my last post guys..

ATB, Marc,,

Well bloody hell! 

Dont know how they got them passed as safe to use.

 

[Marc.RG1]

Well bloody hell! 

Dont know how they got them passed as safe to use.

i must admit, when i did my shooting tests with them (only a few hundred shots) i did not have any break inside my gbb guns, had one or two break on impact, but i was soon put off my the metal shaving and how soft they are compared to geoffs and others, and they accuracy was not as good as geoffs either. I guess they needed to add the extra weight some how, but if geoffs manage to do 0.36g with just solid plastic im pretty sure madbull could do so with 0.43g too..

ATB, Marc..

 

[Samurai]

In the safe zone casually slip magnets into players' pouches to get homing BBs.

 

[Marc.RG1]

In the safe zone casually slip magnets into players' pouches to get homing BBs.

That's it I'm going to stock up haha

 

[Rogerborg]

Well, damn.  That's bang out of order.

 

[jcheeseright]

I don't see why there's a problem with that, has anyone done a scientific test to prove that adding metal powder into the plastic mix makes them less resilient? 

 Obviously it increases their density, but that doesn't necessarily translate into less hardness or shatter resistance. 

Sounds a lot like the old myth that 'bio BBs aren't safe because they can shatter into your eyepro'. 

 

[proffrink]

I remember reading some time back that they were forced into using some hygroscopic plastics with the metal powder. Whether this was because or in spite of the metal powder I don't know, so that could all be nonsense. The reason I don't like some of the older metal-powder heavier stuff it because it's usually dyed like the Guarder ones, so it's impossible to see where you're shooting.

I don't think any of us use BBs to their breaking point anyway. It's true that some GBBs benefit from a harder BB but typically only the nordic people have muzzle energy limited high enough to really test the difference between some of the top-tier BBs.

 

[Rogerborg]

I don't see why there's a problem with that

How much metal are you personally prepared to accept in there before you don't consider it an airsoft BB any more?  I'd the line to be drawn at zero, to avoid slipping down any slopes.

 

[proffrink]

It's the mass not the hardness that makes a BB hurt though. I'd have no problem with any amount of metal but plastic is far cheaper to make and polish, plus is typically harder so will scratch up barrels more readily.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I'd have no problem with any amount of metal but plastic

What about 100% steel BB ?  Airsoft Extreme or as I call it Air-X (plastic is for pussies :lol: )